BA747-436
Topic Author
Posts: 1192
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2001 11:03 pm

AA's "new" Economy?

Wed Feb 14, 2001 12:42 am

Hi i was just wondering if anyone has tried AA's economy class with MORE space? i've heard that there's between 32-36" pitch. Why such a large veriation? I have travelled with AA once from Heathrow - JFK and back out on a A300 and back on 767. And i must say that it was proberley the worst flights i've ever had! I've had more room on JAL domestic! (not exactly but too close!)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
So whats it like with more space? Did you notice it?
Let me know as i'm planning a trip from London - Los Angeles and i'm wondering about AA.
Thanks
Dan
Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
 
QantasA330
Posts: 304
Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:57 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Wed Feb 14, 2001 12:54 am

Nothing special.... Trust me I took AA from LHR-MIA... and It wasn't much better if at all. The trip was pretty crappy... I'd take UAL or Virgin... I've flown them heaps from LHR-LAX... They have far better service and room... crew was nicer too. My thoughts anywayz Smile

:::QantasA330:::
 
Trvlr
Posts: 4251
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2000 9:58 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:26 am

It was really kind of wierd. This December I flew SAN-ORD-BRU and CDG-ORD-SAN on AA. The change in seat pitch is VERY noticeable on the domestic aircraft...it almost feels like you are sitting in first class compared to before. On the international flights however, both on 763s, I am not quite sure if AA had converted the planes I was flying on yet. It kind of felt like I had 33' of pitch instead of 35' or 31-32'. But it was still comfortable.

Compared to BA however, I think I would prefer them to AA. But that's probably just because I have flown AA more than BA.
 Smile
Aaron G.

 
sccutler
Posts: 5555
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2000 12:16 pm

May Not Be Changed At All...

Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:34 am

They advertise it as "100% of our two-class fleet has more room throughout coach"- which sounds, by implication, like "if you're flying international, scrunch up like always.

Although my experience flying from Paris to DFW on AA 767 was quite good, almost good enough to offset the living hell that was the flight over from ORD-Paris (before no-smoking, sat next to a chain-smoking Frenchman, never seen such a thing!).
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
User avatar
VIflyer
Posts: 452
Joined: Wed May 26, 1999 2:29 pm

RE: May Not Be Changed At All...

Wed Feb 14, 2001 2:53 am

The problem I noticed in this topic is that most of these flights are on either 763 or A300. And unfortunetly only 100% of the narrowbody (al'la MD-83,752,738,F100, and some of the Domstic 762) are totally complete with the more room thru coach. It's taking a little longer on the 777,763, and the rest of the 762 because they also are reconfiguring 1st and Business at the same time. Hopefully before the end of the year All our AC with bhave the new seating configuration.
I reject your reality and subsitute my own
 
ILUV767
Posts: 3035
Joined: Mon May 29, 2000 2:21 pm

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Wed Feb 14, 2001 8:05 am

Geez...whats taking A'A so long to do their seat conversions. UA had economy plus done within a few months, and now about 1/3 of the international fleet has gone through re-configuration.
 
Guest

RE: AA's

Wed Feb 14, 2001 8:12 am

I think it's kinda obvious There trying to get as much money out of the seats they have to remove before they take them out!
I think i'm just gona take this little beuti!
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Glenn Alderton


What do you think?
rgrds-Dan
 
User avatar
American 767
Posts: 3923
Joined: Wed May 19, 1999 7:27 am

Yes! More Room Thru Coach!

Wed Feb 14, 2001 9:02 am

Oh I just flew on American this past week and I really did feel the added legroom in coach. I flew on a 727 from Newark to DFW and the aircraft was completely refurbished, it had the new dark blue seats and the walls around the windows were replaced with the newer ones (white walls instead of those old brown walls dating from the 70's), I felt like I was flying on a brand new aircraft that had just come out of the factory !!! In economy class, I felt almost as comfortable as in first class, I could easily take my shoes off and stretch my legs!
The are two things I'm impressed about American's 727's: the new interiors with the added legroom, and the quiet sound of the engines at take off (I was seated in row 13)
Kudos to the employees of American Airlines who worked on refurbishing their planes!

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium
Ben Soriano
 
hugo
Posts: 361
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2000 11:28 am

RE: AA's

Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:41 pm

I LIKE American's "more room throughout coach". THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN COMFORT. Granted there is some variation in with the various aircraft types, but over-all, American's coach is FAR MORE COMFORTABLE than United Economy. If I had to fly a US major, it will be on American.
 
Logos
Posts: 606
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2000 10:47 pm

RE: AA's

Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:49 pm

I flew AA in December/January from Zurich to DFW and back on a 777 and there was more room in coach. The pitch was about 33" if I had to guess. By contrast, I've flown BA from London to the U.S. and it's almost worse than Southwest - about a 30" pitch. The seatback video might as well have been a visor. Lufthansa, which for years was much better, is now also reduced pitch. Some friends of mine recently flew Sabena and said it, too, was really tight.

I'd say if you're flying Trans-Atlantic economy, AA has given you a reason to choose them over the competition. I'd fly them again if I had a choice.

Cheers,
Dave in Berlin
Too many types flown to list
 
AA767400
Posts: 1889
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:04 am

RE: AA's

Thu Feb 15, 2001 4:13 am

AA has all of its domestic flights with more room,
and a couple of more months international will be too.
u cant compare ba with aa in first because ba is for more better. but in coach AA is the place to be on
long flights, no other airline has the leg room they have
not even ua. ua has just 5 rows of seats in coach that have more space, AA has all its coach cabin with room!
if u are going in coach AA is the place to be, virgin is the top dog when it comes to first class pampering.

"The low fares airline."
 
flashmeister
Posts: 2671
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2000 4:32 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Thu Feb 15, 2001 5:56 am

My father and sister have flown AA's MRTC aircraft and both have said that they intend to try to take AA whenever they can as a result (sort of hard out of DEN, though)...

UA's Economy Plus is a joke and an insult to those who don't make UA's arbitrary 'valued customer' cut.
 
AA767400
Posts: 1889
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:04 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Thu Feb 15, 2001 6:09 am

I agree 100% flashmeister!
"The low fares airline."
 
FlyVirgin744
Posts: 1282
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 1999 8:35 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Thu Feb 15, 2001 8:22 am

Not a single 777 has gotten the new coach. Thats why people who have flown on them lately say they don't notice a difference, because there is none. People who say they have been on a refitted 777 are most likely big AA fans but are F.O.S. 23 out of the 40 international 767-300s have been refitted and out of all there 767s, 61 of 79 have been done. All A300s have been refitted. Hopefully that helps.
Sometimes I go about in pity for myself and all the while a great wind carries me across the sky.
 
RWally
Posts: 541
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 1999 10:28 am

RE: AA's

Thu Feb 15, 2001 10:28 am

AA's leg room was always good, but now it's better than ever. If you got a problem with that, why don't you go back to flying BA when you want to leave London for the United States?
 
User avatar
RayChuang
Posts: 7982
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2000 7:43 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Thu Feb 15, 2001 10:53 am

Anyway, AA's fleet of 727's, 737's, S80's, and F100's have all gotten the "More Room Throughout Coach" treatment.

Believe me, having 34" or slightly more of legroom on these planes makes a HUGE difference, especially on flights of two hours or more. I believe the new 737-800's AA are now flying are configured with about 135-140 seats in the MRTC configuration.

AA is in the process of applying MRTC to their International planes, and should be complete by late this year.

The fact that passengers no longer gripe at AA about "cattle car class" in Coach is already worth it to AA employees.  Smile
 
blink182
Posts: 5269
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 1999 3:09 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Thu Feb 15, 2001 11:35 am

The difference is HUGE, I was on an MD-80 DFW-YVR and back, and the plane had new interiors and new reconfiguration. It made such a difference compared to a shorter DFW-LGA and LGA-DFW flight on 757 with the old interiors and no legroom. Go AA!
rgds,
blink182
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
 
Guest

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Thu Feb 15, 2001 11:55 am

I'm 6'3 and I travelled in a 757 from Vancouver to Dallas last summer. I had seen all the ads about how much more space there was and I was kind of excited about that. Sure enough, it was horrible! I saw no change.

But, on the return flight, I made an observation. My knees did not touch the seat in fornt of me. It was sooooooo good. It has made a real difference.

I guess that my first plane I was had not yet been outfitted with the new seating arrangement.
 
enginesrus
Posts: 81
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2000 12:40 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:39 am

Actually, as far as AA's single-aisle fleet is concerned, there's a bit of bait-and-switch going on. Only their older airplanes such as the F100s, 727s, and MD80s--which are gradually being retired over time--have the really copious amounts of legroom such as 33-34". The brand new 737s, backbone of their future fleet, only have 32" of legroom. True, it's more than the 30-31" of space on other airlines or the old AA for that matter but it's certainly not 34"...
 
1011 FAN
Posts: 64
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 1999 12:37 pm

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:20 am

I have to agree with EnginesRUs. The 727s and MD80s that Ive flown on of AA were great. Alot of room. But the 738s still suck bad, even after being "reconfigured" Its a dark looking future looking at AAs future fleet if the 738s are to be the backbone. I hate them.
 
ryanb741
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:36 pm

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:31 am

The new economy is much better than before in terms of legroom. Although I am a BA frequent flier I have to say that the new economy seats on AA are more spacious. After all the bitching they receive, I think we should take our hats off to AA and congratulate them on getting something right. Once they fit the whole fleet with the new seats they will definitely be my first choice US carrier, and will compete on a more even footing with the big European and Asian carriers.
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
blink182
Posts: 5269
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 1999 3:09 am

RE: AA's "new" Economy?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 8:24 am

1011 fan- AA is redoing the fleet by type. When you flew on a 738, there is a chance that AA might not have gotten to them yet.
rgds,
blink182
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: admanager, alomar, ATA L1011, AU795, Baidu [Spider], BravoEchoNov, BreninTW, DocLightning, Fiend, flydia, Google Adsense [Bot], johnberg, MAH4546, MKEdude, msycajun, snowingairlines, tharanga, thegoldenargosy, Viscount724, yendig, Yflyer and 271 guests