VH-BZF
Topic Author
Posts: 738
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 1999 1:28 pm

SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Fri Feb 16, 2001 8:00 pm

Singapore Airlines has just placed an order with Boeing for an additional 20 B777 twin jets to replace it's A310's which will be phased out over the next few years. They will be used to expand current routes served with the A310 & also be used to replace (or increase frequency) A340 routes to places like Adelaide & Perth. SQ would not expand on whether some of the aircraft maybe used for Ansett/Air New Zealand. This takes the number of firm orders by SQ for the B777 to 88!

SQ - Alive & well!

Cheers - BZf Big grin
Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
 
Joni
Posts: 2613
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2000 11:05 pm

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Fri Feb 16, 2001 8:06 pm


This shows how unpredictable the world can be.. onw wouldn't have expected a 310 replacement to be much a much larger plane.

The orders, BTW, were 10 firm and 10 options, not 20 firm.

 
SIN_SQ
Posts: 73
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2000 2:36 pm

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:21 pm

SIA has to resort to buying B777 (10 firm orders and 10 options) as there is no suitable replacement of Airbus A310 aircraft.

BUT Boeing 777 is NOT a direct replacement of A310.  Smile

Using 777 is more flexible

- can make use of current maintenance and spares for Boeing 777

- also can use them on short range especially those popular flights like KL-SIN shuttle services as well as long range routes.

Latest orders are part of 77 orders/options set in 1995.
 
Airbus A380
Posts: 508
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2001 3:54 am

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:44 pm

Singapore Airlines Announces US$4 Billion B777-200 Order
14/02/2001


Singapore Airlines (SIA) today announced an order for 20 Boeing 777-200 aircraft, 10 on firm order and 10 on option. The gross price of US$4 billion, applicable at time of delivery, includes the cost of aircraft spares and spare engines.


These aircraft will replace SIA's existing fleet of A310-300 aircraft and cater to growth.


SIA previously ordered 61 B777s in November 1995 as part of a 77-plane order that included 16 aircraft for its leasing associate, Singapore Aircraft Leasing Enterprise (SALE). With this latest order, the number of B777s in operation, on firm order and on option will total 81.


The 20 aircraft in this latest order will be powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 892 engines and will be delivered between 2003 and 2009. They will be used mainly on regional routes, but will also be suitable for longer routes if required.


Said SIA Deputy Chairman and CEO Cheong Choong Kong: "In terms of capacity, the B777 is a larger aircraft than the A310 and therefore not a direct replacement in terms of size, but it offers us the flexibility to use the aircraft on both the shorter-haul services currently operated by the A310, as well as on the longer sectors. We are already operating 18 B777s in our fleet and can therefore take advantage of economies of scale in terms of spares and maintenance costs."


As with previous orders, SIA expects to finance the purchase largely from its cash flow, but if necessary, the Airline will consider borrowing or leasing.


SIA has already begun phasing out its A310-300 fleet, with 13 remaining in operation. The last A310 will be retired from the operating fleet in 2006.


At present, SIA operates 91 aircraft, comprising Boeing 777-200s and -300s, 747-400s, Airbus A340-300s and A310-300s.

And for your information, 2 A310-300s which SIA retired recently, have been sold to the Belgium Air Force for use as VIP transports.

Airbus A380. Airbus' Best To The World.
 
Guest

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:49 pm

Boeing is currently looking at a 767-200 with a shorter wing, and would be shaped for short range routes. This would be more friendly on shorter range routes. This would be the ultimate A310 replacement.
-Tom, The King of The 767
 
Guest

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:56 am

SIA did the right thing ordering more new 92,000lb thrust RR Trent 892 powered 777-200ERs over the underpowered 34,000lb thrust CFM56-5C4 powered A340-300E. 184,000lbs total thrust with the RR Trent 777-200ER vs. 136,000 total thrust with the CFM56 A340-300E.
 
VASI
Posts: 187
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2000 3:33 am

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 5:32 am

They just ordered the 777, because Airbus freezed plans of developing an A 300/310 successor, the A 330-500, because of lack of interest.

So the 777 is not a first choice!

VASI
 
RIX
Posts: 1589
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2000 4:46 am

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 5:51 am

VASI, excuse me, but... did YOU understand what you said?  Smile
 
Guest

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 6:03 am

like i said on flyertalk, i have my doubts on the viability of the 772 on some of SQ's current 310 routes, such as male, guangzhou, bandar seri begawan and surabaya. perhaps some short routes could be spun off to silkair to fly its 319s and 320s to, but how about the longer routes which do not see that much demand?
 
VASI
Posts: 187
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2000 3:33 am

RIX

Sat Feb 17, 2001 6:21 am

Sure I do!
According to some Singaporean officials that´s the way it went.

Regards
VASI
 
madog
Posts: 89
Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2000 10:36 am

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 7:11 am

that's bloody great! where did you hear this from?
 
Hamlet69
Posts: 2460
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2000 2:45 am

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 7:50 am

I think it would be more correct to say that since airlines, particularily Singapore, were not interested in the A330-500, Airbus has postponed the program. Therefore, SQ's choices were the 764ER, A332, or more 777s. Out of those choices, the 777 was their first choice. Now who are we to question their decision?

That said, I think Frozensun might be correct, that some of the smaller routes could be transferred to SilkAir, as well as a possible order for A321s from that airline.

Hamlet69
Honor the warriors, not the war.
 
VH-BZF
Topic Author
Posts: 738
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 1999 1:28 pm

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sun Feb 18, 2001 12:59 pm

The article in Friday'sAustralian newspaper also stated that the last A310 in SQ's fleet would be retired in 2006!
BTW, where do SQ fly their A310's to anyway (apart from Cairns.)?
As stated above this new order for 10 Firm & 10 Options complements an earlier order for (1995) or 61 B777's. I also stand corrected, this order takes the total order to 81 aircraft.

Cheers - BZF Big grin
Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
 
Guest

RE: SQ Gets More B777's - Replacement For A310's!

Sun Feb 18, 2001 1:13 pm

I just wondered introduction of B772 into some of the high frequency shutter flight like SIN--KUL and SIN--Jakarta will result in reduction of frequency or not.

By the way, the actual A310 replacement will be the newly ordered B772 or the older B772. Beside that, the B772 will be configurate into 2 class or 3 class layout. As far as I concerned, SIA used 2 class B772 for it's SIN--KUL shutter flight.

Anyway, just some of the curiousity regarding the B772 as the A310 replacement.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 727LOVER, a320fan, AVENSAB727, Baidu [Spider], blink182, BreninTW, Deltran757, dennypayne, johnberg, Planesmart, reality, rutankrd, southwest1675, Thenoflyzone, Yahoo [Bot] and 242 guests