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AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 4:13 am

As all of you know American Airlines has kept the same color scheme for a very long time, since the late 60's. I think it is time that American works on a revised color scheme. What do you think?
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 4:21 am

No way what are you talking about!

American Airlines has one of the best color schemes!

That is the last good thing about AA.
Would you rather them paint there planes white with a painted tail like everyone else?
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 4:33 am

I agree with the above post. That design does NOT look dated at all. I think AA still has a magnificent design and hope they never change it.

I can't even envision them with anything better. The only thing I'm not too crazy about is why they took the shiny silver coating off all of the tails. The pale gray tails make the MD11's, the m80s and 727s all look kinda odd.

Does any knowledgable AA people know why they had to do this? (They apparently *had* to for a legitimate reason. I'm just wondering what it was).
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 4:35 am

Maybe the tails weren't polish-able aluminum?
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 4:50 am

I believe the reason why the vertical tail surfaces don't have that polished aluminum look is the fact today's jets all use composites for their vertical tail surface skins. But I can't wait the retro "Astrojet" scheme that is supposed be on a new-delivery 777-200ER due later this year.  Smile
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 4:52 am

I fully agree with Superfly !

AA's colour scheme is somewhat timeless looking.The bare metal overall is cocky !!!It kinda makes AA's planes look like the great classic Zephyr Trains !How could one even think of dropping this scheme in fav of a new one?

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 5:05 am

Im Big!!Fan of AA and there c/s hope it will last forever and ever!!! Big grin


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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 5:56 am

I agree with the guy above!  Big thumbs up

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:03 am

I agree with the two guys above  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:10 am

What is the matter with this scheme ?? I find it really not nice at all... they really should update it...how about they try the eurowhite (which Air France launched) ?
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:13 am

Don Carty in a recent American Way article said that AA would not be changing its colour scheme for a long time. So don't get your hopes up. The most we could hope for is more planes in the "Astrojet" scheme.

I think that the current color scheme is great...and timeless. I don't really wnat them to change it.

Aaron G.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:14 am

In December's AA inflight magazine, the chairman wrote a whole article about their livery. It won't be changed. In addition to all of the cosmetic pluses mentioned above, the planes weigh a little less because of less paint, which translates to greater fuel efficiencies. There is also a safety factor in that cracks can be spotted a lot easier than if there were paint over them.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:41 am

The color scheme is dated IMHO. Keep the "bare metal" and update the rest. Grey on Silver looks tacky.
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:55 am

The Scheme is possibly the best one out there! A CLASSIC! The colors look best on the 767, 757, MD-11 and MD-80
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 7:28 am

Add me to the list of "don't change the livery" proponents. Other than putting out some more retro's, I'd say don't change a thing.



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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 7:31 am

The masses have spoken.The scheme stays.I wish Delta had never changed their colors.That was my second favorite scheme.Plus it seems like as soon as an airline changes colors,they start to get into financial trouble.
 
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Super Em

Wed Feb 21, 2001 7:36 am

That's a good metaphor that can be applied in all aspects of life!

I do agree that AA show keep there colors the same.

I love the silver birds!

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 9:45 am

The AA color scheme is classic, as WAS the old old Delta scheme which has also been around forever.

I do like the "AstroJet" scheme, its beautiful. If they paint a 777 in it I will die, it will be beautiful! The 737-800 and the 757-200 in AstroJet colors look stunning. The inclination toward all-white schemes is awful, they look so dirty so fast!!
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 10:28 am

I think that American has a great scheme. Those planes are the best when the sun hits them and gives a nice reflection or picture opp. They are also great just because of the reflection they give off of anything on the ground around them especially when they are on final.
 
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Woodsyboy

Wed Feb 21, 2001 10:29 am

OH NO YOUR GONNA DIE!!!!

American Airlines is going to paint a few 777 in the 'Astro Jet' livery.
Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:47 am

What other "major" airline has the bare metal scheme? AA has countless numbers of things that I really like about them, and their color scheme is one of them. I would be pissed if they were to change it. It is a classic scheme and extremely well known through out the world. I also like the mix by painting some astrojet schemes, I can't wait to see the 777 Astrojet. Good job AA! Keep up the good work!
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 12:15 pm

I agree with those saying that AA's scheme is GREAT!!!

But, just a question: If you look at AA's 727s, why do they use grey paint on the second engine nacelle, where they paint the USA flag?? It looks quite ugly in my opinion.

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 12:39 pm

Silverbirds forever!
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 2:05 pm

Southwest has Silver One... anywayz... why should American change their livery?

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 7:13 pm

I have heard that parts of their planes had to be painted because of the reflections in the sun.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:26 pm

I don't think AA should change their scheme. I love it just the way it is. I love getting photos of the planes when the sun is shining on them....esp on final approach where you can see the reflection of the ground on the belly of the plane!

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:45 pm

AA's colors are a timless classic, they looked great in 1970, and the look great today.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:55 pm

Hopefully they keep the silver body and are just update the outdated AA on the tail. It has even a big advantage, they save a remarkable number of kg on every plane as the paint has also some weight.
It simply does not work on Airbus planes, as Airbus requires the paint as an additional protection to the skin.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:25 am

I think the AA livery is too plain, looks OK on a new plane, but after a couple of years they start to look beat up. It's retro , no doubt, but it's also tacky. It's much too anonymous, doesn't catch the eye. As for Delta's old c/s, I don't think I've seen much worse, literally scrawled on the back of an envelope, their new scheme is a big improvement, except for the excessive white on the fuselage.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:35 am

Just like I predicted it would. Somone came along (it's been about a month and a half since the last of these perpetual questions were posted) and asked the same question.
Mercifully, at least we've been spared any further Southwest needs a new livery threads.

Be patient. By the end of March, some other soul will post this exact same question regarding American yet again.

This is such a repeat question (and the replies are the same every time) that perhaps Johan can create a new board where the only topic allowed is to discuss whether or not American should have a new livery.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:53 am

>>"...perhaps Johan can create a new board where the only topic allowed is to discuss whether or not American should have a new livery."<<

No Matthew. I'm afraid we disagree. Instead...

-I think Johan could create a new board where the only topic allowed to discuss is whether or not "liberals are taking over the world" and why the media is so "liberal", and why Mcdonalds is so "liberal" and why Boeing is so "liberal," and why TV shows are so "liberal," and why MTV is so "liberal," and why Kmart is so "liberal," and why Fred Flintstone is so "liberal," and why this person, that person and the other person is so "liberal"...ad nauseam, ad nauseam, ad nauseam, ad nauseam.

This way, it would spare most of us from reading such rhetoric on the non-aviation forum everyday.


Just my 2 pennies.


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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 5:00 am

Matt D- I have to say I aggree with the letter your recieved. This site gets a lot of new users and they may not know of the archives. Also there are a lot of the older threads that have been locked so you can't comment on them even if you wanted to. Even though this topic has been discussed before, its still a valid question to ask. They are one of the few to keep their scheme for 35+ years. By responding to threads you don't like or don't aggree with, you only advance it back to the top of the forum. You are not obligated to read or respond to each and every thread, so if you don't like one or your tired of seeing the same topic don't read or respond to it.

Now to repond to the topic, I don't have a big problem with AA scheme. It's nice, but I think a change could be made and still keep the silver if thats so important to people and the airline. Everyone seems to love both the retro scheme aswell as the current scheme but they are very different schemes based around the silver fusulage. I tried my luck at creating a new scheme around the aluminum finish for AA a long time ago and got good results from it. Hopefully when they do decided to updated their scheme everyone will like it as much as the schemes from its past.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 5:28 am

As a specialist in graphic design for airline brands and aircraft livery designs I'm looking forward to get feet on the ground in the Americas. There are very good corporate identities flying around in America however I agree with you that this airline could use an upgrade very well. You have stimulated me to take some action. I did/do illustration jobs for Lithuanian Airlines, Swissair, Sabena and logo/livery designs for VLM Airlines and Air Holland. The new Air Holland logo and livery design (on a DC10) of my hand is expected to be revealed within 5 weeks from now.
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 9:28 am

Really, Liladesi? Well tell us what you think of some of the newer liveries such as DL, UA, WN, US, Finnair, BWIA, etc. Also, what improvements do you think American Airlines should make? Do you think they should change the "AA" logo altogether, or do you think they should just redo the paint scheme (while keeping the logo)?

I'd REALLY be interested in hearing your thoughts on the worse of them all... Delta Air Lines. You know, -that new scheme that makes its planes look like someone tossed a gigantic red, white and blue blanket over the tails.

Yep. That one.
 
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RE:No

Thu Feb 22, 2001 11:10 am

No! Definately not. I really like the classic bare metal sheme. It dose't seem old at all. It will always seem nice and new. AA did a great job!
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 11:21 am

I have taken a good look at the AA planes and I realize I like their color scheme!
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 11:34 am

American should stay the way they are...

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 11:43 am

"Color" Schemes. COLOR? AA? COLOR? COLOR BLIND?

Time for a pleasant change, and give those 757's some respect.

 
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RE: Blink182

Thu Feb 22, 2001 1:11 pm

Easten, Flying Tigers, Northwest Orient, USAir and Western all had the bare metal look. Thety all looked great!

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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 3:28 pm

Egh. I don't care for the old Orient livery at all.
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Thu Feb 22, 2001 6:29 pm

also GLBurchill@Earthlink.net. American's livery is timeless, attractive and economical for American. The Email that I sent to a certain user on this board was sent privately for the purpose of not boring all of you with issues you could'nt care less about. For the record, I would rather talk out of any and all sides of my mouth if need be... it beats where MJDinWC@aol.
com talks from.... Hmmm, looks like I hit a nerve with the guy!  Big grin
 
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RE: AA's Color Scheme

Fri Feb 23, 2001 1:04 am

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