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Big Jet, Short Route

Sun Apr 25, 1999 12:31 pm

I have noticed that Delta is using a B757 on the route SAV - ATL. Its only 252 miles on the map. Why do airlines assign the bigger jets to such short routes? Wouldn't it be more economical to use a DC9 or F100 or maybe even a B727 than a jet that can handle longer legs? And would a 757 cost more to operate on a short route than a smaller jet?
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Andy
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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Sun Apr 25, 1999 2:14 pm

It started at SAV, went to ATL, picked up more passengers at ATL and continued its flight to another destination : because ATL is one of the the large hubs of Delta Air Lines ...

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DFW
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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Sun Apr 25, 1999 3:09 pm

I think JAL or another Japanese carrier uses 747-xxx type aircraft on heavily travelled domestic routes, also Boeing does offer a 747-400 domestic, for short range routes in a high density configuration. I believe now that I think about it that the 747-200 that went down in Japan some years ago with the tailcone problem was on such a flight. Cheers.

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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Sun Apr 25, 1999 4:56 pm

A friend of mine flew from Atlanta to Jacksonville, Florida last week on Delta (only 270 miles) and was on a 767-300. I looked and saw that they operate three 757 flights and three 767 flights every day in addition to smaller planes. That also must be a huge market to warrant that much heavy artillery over such a short route.
 
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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Sun Apr 25, 1999 9:37 pm

In addition to markets with the capacity to warrant a large jet, there are many examples of such flights which are scheduled soley for the purpose of positioning the jets for their next flights. These are "positioning flights."

Here in Philadelphia, there are many such examples of such flights. Delta has a 767 scheduled from JFK to PHl (90 miles) and US Airways has several 737s from BWI (80 miles) and DCA (100 miles). I've flown on some of these flights and the flying time generally is 15 to 20 minutes with a max altitude of 15,000.
 
winair
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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Mon Apr 26, 1999 1:15 am

in the carribean delta or american... think american or someone uses a 757 on a 25 mile flight??? it was in the timetable...maybe it was a mistake
 
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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Mon Apr 26, 1999 4:18 am

Before PSA went out, they had taken delivery of a few L1011's for use on the LAX-SFO flight...now that is a Big Jet, Short Route!

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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Mon Apr 26, 1999 6:21 am

The size of the plane used is more dependent on the amount of demand in a market than the length of the flight, I think. After all, if an airline can fill a 200 seat airplane on a 10 mile flight (an exaggeration, I know, but you get the idea), then why would they schedule only a 34 seat turboprop. In the cases of city pairs where demand does not warrant the larger aircraft, I can think of one reason that has not been listed as to why an airline would use a larger plane than neccessary... American used to fly DC-10's and 767's between LAX and SAN. They would fly the latest flights LAX-SAN, overnight in SAN to be washed, and fly back to LAX in the morning. Airlines, (American, at least), only wash their planes in select cities, so they need to get the planes to those cities. The DC-10's, for example, didn't serve LAX-SAN until the JFK-SAN route was downgraded from a DC-10 to a 767. Since the DC-10 wasn't coming from JFK anymore, they had to get it to SAN from elsewhere. Incidentally, I have flown on a DC-10 from SAN-LAX that had only 2 PAX - my sister and me... coach and business were totally empty!
 
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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Mon Apr 26, 1999 7:33 am

i went on a British airways 767-300 once from heathrow to linate in Milan italy a distance of 620 miles........there was only about 30 people on the plane....dunno how they can afford to do this every day.............

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RE: Big Jet, Short Route

Tue Apr 27, 1999 4:56 am

Try to top this :) STT ( St.Thomas) U.S.V.I. to SJU (san Juan ) Boeing 757-200 under 100 mi....I was happy though, i didnt have to fly on a Super ATR

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