yak42
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B727 And The Tu154

Sun Feb 25, 2001 7:18 am

These two types are very simmilar, everyone knows. The 154 is slightly larger and has an extra passenger door etc.. But having just flown on a 727, was amazed to see how the interior and flight was just like that of a 154. Which is more efficient and what are their advantages over each other.

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RE: B727 And The Tu154

Sun Feb 25, 2001 8:56 am

The B-727 is quiter and more fuel efficent than the TU-154. The TU-154 has very good rough-field performance because of her landing gear. TU's engines are more powerfull than those of the 727 and the TU-154 may have longer range. That's all I know off the top of my head.

By the way, wat airline did you fly the on the 727 with? How many times have you flown on the TU-154?

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RE: B727 And The Tu154

Sun Feb 25, 2001 9:31 am

The 727 has emergency/safety systems such as an oxygen system which the 154 lacks. The 154 uses overhead "shelves", which is a safety hazard, unlike the 727s overheadbins.
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RE: B727 And The Tu154

Sun Feb 25, 2001 6:57 pm

The Tu154 reminds me of the 757-200. They are just about the same size, just different airframe. Tu154s are made in the city where I live in now, Samara Russia.

I like the cockpit of the 727 better, one main reason why is because the Tu154 has that ugly green shade.
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RE: King767

Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:22 am

Just to correct you on the overhead luggage bins both types have been with and without them at various times:
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But more recent aircraft of both types now have a very simmilar cabin.
 
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Yak42

Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:37 am

Ah, yes, you got me there! But I was reffering to the Adv model, which introduced the modern interior,and became standard on all other 727s and available through a refit for older 72s. I am not sure if current Tu154 production (amazing, even with the Tu204 is still in production) includes such a modernized interior. I know that many have been fitted with this, but chances are, if you are going to fly a 154, you are going to fly one with the old interior.
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King767

Mon Feb 26, 2001 4:08 am

The modern interior of the 154 has been fitted since the M version came out in '84 which is most 154s flying in western europe Smile

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RE: King767

Tue Feb 27, 2001 12:46 am

Only very few of the 154s flying on international flights are not the M model...so chances are low you'll fly with opern bins... and even the B2 had open bins originally many of them have modified cabins.. due to the fact that they today have a two or three cabin system today instead of a one cabin system. So even most B2s are refurbished with a new interior.
 
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RE: B727 And The Tu154

Tue Feb 27, 2001 2:34 am


Hi!

My idea is that the 727 was no doubt a great aircraft, and the secret for that was indeed the inovation of their wing, that was the biggest step Boeing did in aerodynamics, that wing had a great shape and great airlift something that the TU154 never had, the TU154 was a great beast with great power but very limited in short and hot and high runways compared with the 727 that was a real winner on that, please don't forget that places like St. Thomas or Funchal in Madeira islands when they had short runways the 727 was "the best" taking off or landing there, and they stayed there for many years, until much latter when the Airbus or the new 737 came.
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RE: B727 And The Tu154

Tue Feb 27, 2001 10:52 am

It was to my knowledge that only later model Ms included this "modernized" interior.
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RE: B727 And The Tu154

Tue Feb 27, 2001 8:57 pm

No it came with the many changes brought to the design in 1984.(ref: Janes Modern Aircraft Encyclopedia) Plus many 154B versions have been refurbished by now. The last time I was on a 154 with basic overhead luggage racks was in 1985.