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ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:22 am

If you operated a small airline, like ASA, would you choose the ERJ or the CRJ, and why? I personally like the ERJ, stylish and a great plane.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:27 am

The ERJ has a major advantage in that it can connect with the same jetways as larger jets without any modifications. However; I have heard the Crj is much quieter.

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:29 am

I would choose the CRJ because it has more overhead passenger storage area. It has overhead bins along both sides of the plane whereas the ERJ has only one row of overhead bins along the side of the aircraft. Also I thought it was very comfortable. I think the CRJ also has a greater range too, not like it matters though.

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Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:43 am

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:46 am

I think we need to add a section to the rules prohibiting Embraer vs. Canadair wars.  Big grin
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:48 am

Is this a war? I've never ridden either, but the CRJ is definitely quieter, and will make airport neighbors much happier...

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:57 am

I dunno about the CRJ being quieter. I heard a CRJ takeoff out of HOU (I was on the roof), and it was pretty loud. Haven't heard/flown an ERJ yet.

RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 12:15 pm

I am a Bombardier fan, so my first choice would be the CRJ, of course.

In real life, however, I'd consider how/where it would be used: The Canadair would be better for routes where few airports have jetways and the airstair would be more convenient. The Embraer, though, is faster and usually better seating arrangements than the Canadair, so would be better for a big-city commutuer service.

I've never ridden either of these, so I can't comment on noise, seat comfort, etc.

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 12:26 pm

The CRJ is proclaimed to be the quietest commercial jet in the world.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 12:43 pm

Hard to say, because while the ERJ-145 and CRJ-200 compete in the same market, Embraer has the ERJ-135 and ERJ 140 in the same cockpit configuration, and Canadair doesn't have an answer for that. However, Canadair has the CRJ-700 and CRJ-900 with the same cockpit configuration and is available sooner, and is much more similar to the CRJ-200 then the ERJ-170 will be to the ERJ-145.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 1:13 pm

The larger ERJs are completely new designs and share nothing but a name with the ERJ-135/140/145.

Though it is surprising that Canadair hasn't produced a smaller CRJ, oh wait they do, its called the Challenger 604.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 1:20 pm

Although I like the 1-2 configuration of the ERJ, I would choose the CRJ. That's not to say that the CRJ doesn't have its problems, such as low windows and extremely hard seats, but I like it better aesthetically and it's very quiet. I would, however, install more comfortable seats before flying it. Can't do anything about the windows, though.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 1:46 pm

Definately, without a doubt the CRJ !! Why?? First of all not all that many people truly enjoy flying. I love it, but from experience and from asking people, I have learned that A LOT of people really do not like flying and if they have to fly, they do not want to be on a small plane! Yes, these are both small planes but the CRJ, I think is MUCH roomier. I like the 2-2 seating unlike the ERJ's 2-1. I also find Can stand up easier on the CRJ and this just seems to make it more comfortable and not seem so small.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 3:03 pm

I have brought this up before, But I would go with CRJ. I think the ERJ is nice looking but the CRJ has better performance and is more roomier. I also like the flight deck more.
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Thu Mar 01, 2001 3:58 pm

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 4:42 pm

What about price difference?
How much does CRJ 200 costs?
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 5:57 pm

Funny a lot of you think that ERJs look more stylish.. I myself thinks that CRJs look much better than the ERJ. The engines especially look better then the ones on the ERJs...

Oh and the winglets... beautiful...

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 6:10 pm

I prefer the CRJ because it looks like a small airliner and not a commuter aircraft, infact have been dreaming about having a small airline with atleast 3 CRJ's,but i'd order mine without the winglets Smile

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 7:38 pm

ERJ 135LR of course and the fleet would be based in Sydney.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 7:56 pm

Having had the opportunity to fly numerous times on both, I would have to say the CRJ is a better plane as far as comfort is concerned.
The CRJ feels like a larger jet and feels more "solid" from a passenger perspective. It feels more well built.
The ERJ feels like a turbo-prop commuter with jet engine stuck onto it....

RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:12 pm

If we look at this issue from a realistic point of view, new airlines often start with leased or second hand aircraft, which means the best way for the new airline would be to start with the CRJ since it has been out for some years longer than the ERJ which probably means that it's easier to find used CRJ than ERJs, or ever for a lease contract. Otherwise I like both. They are nice to fly on, T-Tail makes you feel you're flying Smile/happy/getting dizzy Would definetly choose CRJ or ERJ in front of a 737 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

ERJ also has one advantage over ERJ... NO GE POWER Smile/happy/getting dizzy)

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:36 pm

I´ve only used the CRJ100 so far, and I found it horrible. It really shows it´s just a stretched Biz jet. If the ERJ is even more cramped, may God have mercy on the pax...
I prefer the Dash 8 in that segment and the ARJ for 70+ seats.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 12:17 am

I think the whole price thing is a little touchy at this time. Brazil has been ruled against by the WTO on several ocassions due to "illegal" subsidies(pro-x). I am a resident of Canada, and am sure that I will never receive the entire unbiased story. As is probably the case in Brazil. I think rj's (almost every type) are great looking, each have their own unique style. I do have one problem with where rj's are going though. They are not airliners, nor should they think they are. Once streched to 90 seats they are no longer an rj. I could not imagine sitting in the aft of a crj-900 and watching the fuselage flex in flight. At the very least these large "rj's" should probably forget about their birth titles, and admit what they truly are........airliners.

just an opinion......crj-900 (how appropriate!)
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 12:24 am

I never rode on either of them so it will be based on the looks. I choose ERJ just mainly because the engines look good on ERJ. CRJ look neat but the way engines look really ruined it all. Just out of proportion.

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 2:33 am

I am a little biased towards the CRJ. I've flown on both and talked ot the flight crews, the airline I fly for is taking dilvery of a bunch of CRJs right now. They were choosen because they were faster, longer ranged, carried more payload, quieter, and more reliable. We use them on Jet bridges, the only thing you have to do is remove a pin to drop the stairs in order to attach them. It is a lot easier in some ways as the stairs are there in case they are needed. I've seen American Eagle have to use a difficult set of ground stairs at airports without jet bridges, or when they are inop. The ERJ is more fuel effiecient, a better short hop aircraft from I've heard. It is also a better climber at higher altitude, a down side to the CRJ in my opinion. Although the CRJ wins hands down with engines, they are very similar to those used on S-3 for the navy and A-10s for the airforce, bullet proof.
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 9:37 am

I have always considered noise to be a big issue with planes, so I would definitely go with CRJ. Also I believe the reliability of the aircraft to be superior with the CRJ over ERJ.
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Fri Mar 02, 2001 9:55 am

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 10:48 am

what weirdo would put this in? go for the widebodies!!!
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 2:05 pm

CRJ. It is roomier inside. I also note the takeoff--it accelerates like an empty 757!
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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 3:14 pm


Erj or the "Amazon Jet" are alwayz broke they suck.

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:06 pm

Embraer Regional Jets!!!!

Of course!!!

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RE: ERJ Or Crj?

Sat Mar 03, 2001 3:12 pm

The CRJ will climb at what the ERJ cruises at.

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