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A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 2:25 am

Thursday March 1 11:51 AM ET
Cathay To Add Airbus Jets

HONG KONG (AP) - Cathay Pacific Airways said Thursday it will add seven Airbus Industrie jets to its fleet, and noted it would have the capability to compete with U.S. rivals on long-haul routes into New York.

Cathay said it will lease three Airbus A340-600s for delivery in 2002-2003, while leasing three A340-300s and buying one A330-300 for delivery this year.

Cathay said in a statement that the A340-600s could fly long-haul nonstop services such as Hong Kong-Chicago and Hong Kong-New York.

Cathay now flies to New York via Vancouver but faces increased competition over the next few weeks as two U.S. carriers, Continental Airlines and United Airlines, launch nonstop services to New York.

Cathay has not said whether it will offer similar flights, but its chairman, James Hughes-Hallett, called the carrier ``a pioneer of ultra long-range flights.''

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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:06 am

Great news, although the A340-600 deal had been expected for some time. This is a trickle which I'm sure will ultimately become a flow. Cathay could well choose, in due course, to order the -500, in which case it would become the only airline to operate all four 340 models (remember they had four A340-200s back in '94/95, before the -300s joined the fleet).

Anyway, there is a thread on PPRuNET running on this; there is (as far as I can see) a slight disagreement, in that the PPRuNER states that there are 4 A340s coming. I'll have another look. The 3 A340s being leased from Boeing are to replace 3 ex Air China 340s, the departure of which is long awaited. They had no PTVs and were generally substandard, relative to the rest of the fleet. The "new" aircraft are, of course, ex SIA.

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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:19 am

Looking at the other report, I'd go with this one; i.e. it is an A330-300. Either way great news for CX.

By my reckoning, the fleet by the end of 02 should look like this (Airbus only):

2 A340-600 (+ one due in 03)

15 A340-300E

23 (!) A330-300.

I wonder if this makes CX the largest A330 operator. Can't think of any larger operator, not even TG/KE?

There's an airline on the move!

As to nonstops, I had heard that CX was looking at a nonstop to JFK; although no competitor should be ignored, I'd imagine CO is seen as a greater threat than UA (well, which would you choose?). It was rumoured that CX would keep the 744 one stop, but operate nonstop with a 340 as well . . .
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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:39 am

This would indeed make CX the biggest A330 operator, although I don't know, how EK's and KE's fleet will develop until then.

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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 8:28 am

Great news! As CX ordered A346, it's not very likely that they will order 772/773LR in the near future. Tho I still can't rule out this possibility since CX is now operating both 773/773 and A330/340. But just one question, would A346 be able to fly from HKG to JFK, EWR, YYZ or ORD w/o stop in both direction and in all seasons? I thought CX would buy A345 instead of A346 since AC is buying A345 for its pacific service as well. Furthermore A345 has more range.

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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 10:45 am

CX should sell off those CFM56 powered A340-300s in favor of new powerful RR Trent powered A340-500s.
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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 11:09 am

More powerful, but also much heavier! You don't want to carry those dead weight on shorter routes. The A343 and 345 are intended for different markets.
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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 2:01 pm

can't wait to see those A346 in CX color......also they have ordered couple of Learjet45 for pilot would be interesting to them in CX color too.....  Smile

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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Fri Mar 02, 2001 4:38 pm

It'll be VERY interesting to see if CX assigns the A340-600's to the HKG-JFK non-stop run.

I think it can be done, but CX may have to order a higher-weight version that can carry enough fuel to fly HKG-JFK non-stop with the standard load of the A346.

RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Sat Mar 03, 2001 1:08 am

Does anyone know if CFM International is working on a higher thrust version (more than 34,000lbs), of the CFM56-5C engine for the A340-300E?
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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Sat Mar 03, 2001 2:04 am

Yes, it is good to see CX buy more aircraft. The company have said that they are seeing how CO's HKG-NY service goes before we launch our own. At the moment, if we fly, it would be with the A340, which would be weight restricted, and not all that desireable for us to do. This is why we are seeing how it all goes before we launch our own. The current YVR-JFK 744 would continue, as the loading is very good on that short sector. I have been told that only CX and AA fly YVR-JFK. Perhaps some of our Canadian members could confirm this?
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RE: A340-600s To Cathay

Sat Mar 03, 2001 2:20 am

The a340-600 has a range of 13900kms in it's 365tmtow guise.It was reprted recently that this was further increased(by 4t?).This would take the range above the 298t 777-200er that Co is using on the jfk-hkg route.Cx would easily be able to fly hkg-jfk nonstop once the big bus is in servive with them.

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Sat Mar 03, 2001 4:46 am

During the summer, AC, AA, and CX will all fly YVR-JFK-YVR flights.
AC will use an A319/320, AA will use a B737-800, and of course a 744 with CX!
I do hope the CX 744 one-stop continues, as CX is the cheapest way to fly to JFK (from YVR)!


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Sat Mar 03, 2001 6:20 am

Although I am not an A340, it is nice to see CX ordering some aircraft and taking the next step. I too wonder where the 777-200ER lays in their plans after the news release a while back about CX picking up some MAS birds. Quite interesting to hear a potential A380 operator talking about fragmenting a route.

In other news, it will be interesting to see how CO's 777-200ERs will perform on the EWR-HKG run. Just another form of fragmentation. Personally I would like to see CX try them out for a while.
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Sat Mar 03, 2001 7:27 am

>Although I am not an A340, it is nice to see

Well, you would be the first airplane to write E-mails.
Airbus would be very proud of you and surely involve
your abilities in the comparision with the 777.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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Sat Mar 03, 2001 1:15 pm

Thanks for catching my mistake. What I meant to say was that I am not an A340 fan. Personally I would like to be a 747-400 though!
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