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Aloha 737-200 Replacement?

Mon Mar 05, 2001 9:53 am

Does anyone know if Aloha is planning on replacing the 737-200s they use on their inter-island routes? Those 737s are getting very old, and with Hawaiian getting brand new 717s, they are at a disadvantage. What I think they could do is buy some second hand 737-500s or get some 737-600s. They are taking delivery of some more 737-700s for the transpac routes, so shouldn't they be thinking about redoing the interisland fleet?
 
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RE: Aloha 737-200 Replacement?

Mon Mar 05, 2001 10:13 am

I've often wondered about this myself. With the high cycle/low hours ratios combined with the humid and salty air those planes fly though, how have they managed to stay intact?
 
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RE: Aloha 737-200 Replacement?

Mon Mar 05, 2001 10:24 am

They are. But in my opinion, the 737 or A320 family are not going to be good solutions for the interisland fleet. True the 737-600 would have a lot in common with the 737-700s, but the costs of operating them in the interisland market, as aircraft designed for longer flights than exist within Hawaii, would put them at a serious disadvantage to Hawaiian, with 717s designed for short flights.

I have heard that Aloha has been in discussions with BAE Systems for the Avro RJX 100, and they are also going to me monitoring Hawaiian's success with the 717. I suspect the final decision will be one of these two aircraft.

David
 
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RE: Aloha 737-200 Replacement?

Mon Mar 05, 2001 1:03 pm

I believe that the chance of Aloha getting the RJX are next to nothing, because though the 717 isn't a 737, it is still a Boeing.

But, what about acquiring second hand 737-500s?
 
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RE: Aloha 737-200 Replacement?

Mon Mar 05, 2001 1:35 pm

The 737-500 is a possibility, but also will have questionable economics. It was the longest-range member of the 2nd generation 737 (300/400/500) family. Add to that trying to market our "new used" 737-500s versus Hawaiian's "factory fresh" 717-200s. New airplanes are pretty certain.

And I don't consider the chances of the Avro RJ-X "next to nothing". Flight International reports that Aloha has been in discussions with BAE Systems for up to 24 RJ-Xs. It is particularily interested in the Quick-Change option to allow rapid conversion to a frieghter configuration for Aloha's overnight cargo operations. Industry observers suggest that Aloha is considered a lead contender for an RJ-X order.

The article also mentions that Aloha is studying the 717. And the other airline mentioned as considering an RJ-X order is British European, which since the article was published has in fact announced an order.

David

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