Tue Mar 13, 2001 9:15 am

Is the aircraft still in production. If it is will it be profitable.. Also the safety of the aircraft. I heard this will be a double decker like the 747-- how do you evacuate so many people on such a large aircraft--especially all the emergency exits doors it will need? The wingspan is going to have to be quite large to generate the lift of this big bird-suppose to be bigger than the 747..Just curious.
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RE: A3xxx

Tue Mar 13, 2001 9:18 am

The aircraft was just launched last year and production of the first aircraft is still a bit away from actually starting. The aircraft was officially designated on launch as the A380.

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RE: A3xxx

Tue Mar 13, 2001 9:38 am

Welcome to! Big thumbs up its now called the A380 and you can search for tons of other posts regarding the plane.

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RE: A3xxx

Thu Mar 15, 2001 4:01 am

A380 is complete double-decker (I remember Boeing had similar idea named B2707.) with 4 engines. Because 380 has 9 full-sized exits on each side, airliners can put up to 990 seats on this airplane, but Airbus proposed standard 3-class configuration made of 555 seats, so it's far safer than formal 744 (400 seats normally, up to 580) or 773 (350 seats normally, up to 550). By Airbus's figures, it's wingspan is 79.3 meters, 15 meters longer than 744. For addition, it's fuselage is shorter than both of 773 and 346. Because it's big, 380 will have engine with 1.8x thrust of 744, so there's no problem for takeoff, unless one of wings are broken away.

But, but, first of all, I'm talking about 380, which was 3xx formerly, but what's A3xxx?
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RE: A3xxx

Thu Mar 15, 2001 4:49 am

Similar idea of Boeing was NLA. 2707 was Boeing SST idea. About exit doors & safety: there are rules to be kept (B737-900 is a good example - it gives more configuration flexibility than 737-800 as it is bigger, but since it has the same amount of exits, total passengers number is the same for both). Every aircraft flying keeps these rules (of course!). So I'm not sure that A380 is "far safer" from this point of view than anything flying today. By the other hand, an exit is a hole in the fuselage. In some situation extra hole may be critical for structural integrity, and then nobody will care about extra exits - there would be no one alive to use them... Of course, any of those guys who designs A380 knows this far better than we all together - but so all the other guys who designed everything else flying with less exits per passenger.
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RE: A3xxx

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:25 am

RIX: Great words.

Of course when we say '380 is safer because it has enough exits', this 380 is regarded as with 'standard' 555 seats. 380-seated 744 should be safer than JAL's or ANA's 568-seated 744D, although 568-seated 744D still keeps rules.

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A3XX Is Now Known As A380

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:51 am

Hear ye, hear ye

It's me A380. The A380 is not yet in production, even the prototype was not developed yet. The first flight was targetted at 2004 and first deliver ies should begin late-2005 or early-2006. I remember Boeing even has plans to develop a Boeing 747 SDD or Super Double Decker, because I read this in a book, about FLA. Al so read about McDonnell Douglas's MD12 Double Decker.
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RE: A3xxx

Fri Mar 16, 2001 2:09 am

For more information check out Airbus homepage,

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RE: A3xxx

Fri Mar 16, 2001 2:56 am

Dataman340, I agree.

By the way, there was even VC10 double-decker idea. I remember a picture of it with two rows of windows...
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RE: A3xxx

Fri Mar 16, 2001 4:47 am

First of all it's not A3xxx it's A3XX before it was launched. To my understandings pax on upperfloor will have their own emergency exits. They will probably need a very long slide to get to the ground, just like the 747 upper deck. The first production aircraft will fly in 2006.

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