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Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 12:54 pm

Any ideas about the most competitive routes?
(eg: a route served by 3 or 5 more airlines)

Like: Taipei-Hong Kong, London- New York.
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 12:58 pm

I know the Northeastern shuttle routes are very highly prized.
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 1:16 pm

I know the SFO-JFK run is covered by UA, AA, DL, and TW (for now) and I'd be willing to bet that LAX-JFK has even more airlines comepetining on it.
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 1:26 pm

I'll make it clear, can we concentrate on the routes internationally? I know the US domestic flight are really competitive on the trunk routes.

Just thought of this one: Hong Kong - Singapore.
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 2:16 pm

MIA-CCS is operated non-stop by five carriers, American, United, AeroPostal, Avensa, and LanChilie with 9 dailies.

MIA-GRU is also heavily competed on, with American, United, VARIG, TransBrasil, and TAM each with dailies.

MIA-SJC has American, Iberia Airlines of Spain, LTU, MartinAir, and LACSA, though I don't think you can buy tickets for the LTU and MartinAir flights (those planes fly DUS-MIA-SJC-MIA-DUS and AMS-MIA-SJC-MIA-AMS; I think you can only tickets on the the MIA-AMS/DUS and AMS/DUS-SJC legs)

Also competitve from MIA...
MIA-BOG (Avianca, American, Aces, and LanChilie)
MIA-PTY (American, Copa, Iberia Airlines of Spain, LAB)
MIA-CUN (American, Iberia, Mexicana, AeroMexico)
MIA-PAP (American, Air France, ALM, H9)

And for those of you wondering, Iberia has a hub in MIA serving eight destinations, Panama City, San Jose (CR), Roatan, San Pedro Sulas, Guatemala City, Managua, Cancun, and Madrid, along with one-stop Barcelona and Tel Aviv. Each flight is daily except Madrid, which is twice daily (and a third codeshare with a AA) and TLV, which is thrice weekly. Air France has a 737 in Miami operating MIA-PAP-FDF-PTP and back.



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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 2:59 pm

I bet one is LAX-DUB/SNN (just kidding) probably JFK to LHR?? LAX-HKG
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 3:02 pm

SIN-SYD is very competitive with SQ, QF, GF, KL, EK and for a while, NG all flying this route. Also NRT-LAX. You have MH, SQ, JL, NH, UA, NW, TG. LHR-JFK is also very competitve with BA, AI, PK, and many others. SIN-CGK also, you have SQ, GA, AI ,KL, AF, LH, MI, QF. SIN-LHR you have SQ, BA,QF. TPE-LAX you have BR, CI, SQ, UA (ithink), MH.
 
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RE: SYD-BNE

Wed Mar 14, 2001 3:52 pm

On the SYD-BNE route, we have 4 carriers,

Ansett Australia
Qantas
Virgin Blue
Impulse Airlines

Now that may seem like only 4 carriers, but the level of competition is pretty good, considering airfares have gone down to $39 AUD ($19 USD) for a 750km/470ml sector and low fares are regularly available.

More impressive considering its within Australia (which is not a particularaly populated country) and there are over 50 return flights per day (717 to 747).

Cheers,

Justin
 
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RE: SYD-BNE

Wed Mar 14, 2001 5:04 pm

LHR-JFK
LHR-ORD
LHR-LAX
LHR-SFO
LHR-CDG
LHR-AMS
Those are a few that come to mind. There are loads others from LHR as well though.
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 5:25 pm

In the matter only of number of airlines, SEL-NRT (and ICN-NRT from Mar 29.) has 7 direct competitors.

- Korean Air 28 weekly
- United Airlines 14 weekly (will be 21 from Mar 29.)
- Japan Air System 14 weekly
- Japan Airlines 9 weekly
- Northwest Airlines 7 weekly
- Asiana Airlines 5 weekly
- All Nippon Airways 1 weekly

And flights by JAL is code-shared by American.

But the competition is not high, the full fare is about 600,000KRW in Korea, and the cheapest discount would be 420,000KRW. I really cannot understand why Lonely Planet wrote 'it is not hard to get the seat'.

BTW, is 6 to 8 competitors the most one?
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 11:20 pm

American and TAM have double daily flights on the MIA-GRU sector, and TAM is to add a thrid.
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2001 11:33 pm

Boston-London is operated by BA, VS, AA, UA, CO (Codeshare with VS) and soon DL.
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2001 12:57 am

JFK - SIN
SIN - LAX
SIN - LHR
LHR - JFK

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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2001 8:08 am

I think Dubai-Karachi. They got EK, SR, PK and other few.
 
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RE: Most Competitive Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2001 10:28 am

Skystar: US$19? I need to move to Australia!

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