BostonBeau
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Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:26 am

I'd like to hear from our UK posters what precautions you have seen implemented at your local airports to prevent spread of the disease. We are getting reports that passengers departing the UK for the US are being asked to walk through some sort of sterilizing bath to clean their shoes, and anyone arriving in the US who has spent time in the countryside in the UK is having their shoes sprayed upon arrival.
 
ryanb741
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:30 am

Having passed through LHR last weekend - NOTHING was done.

This is why the UK is the 'leper' of Europe - it has caused pretty much all of the European agriclutural disasters of the last decade, and it seems like nobody gives a sh*t if we pass it to other countries.

Until of course our produce gets banned, then everybody gets all uptight and thinks it's discrimination.....
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englandair
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:39 am

Well what would be the point in making people walk through disinfectant?!
Has it not occured to you that people wont be flying in the same shoes they were milking the cows in the previous day?!

The only thing they could (and should do) is disinfect ALL footwear being taken outside the UK, France, Saudi Arabia and the UAE (because there are now cases in those countries too).
 
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:41 am

Here at YYC (Calgary) and other Canadian Airports that have flights from Europe have passengers that arrive here walk over a carpet that is soaked in Vinegar to help stop the foot and mouth disease.
 
johnboy
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:57 am

The San Francisco newspaper says 100% of the passengers on nonstop flights from the UK are being interviewed as they arrive, as to whether they need to be "sterilized". Depends on whether they carried any meat or dairy products and whether they visited any rural areas in the last few days.
 
travelin man
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 2:11 am

I am going to France on Sunday, and fully expect to have to walk through sterilization liquid upon return to LAX.

I hope they don't confiscate the crate of steaks I plan on carrying with me...  Smile
 
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 2:23 am

I had my pet cow confiscated! Smile
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 3:22 am

here in Zagreb all pax from european countries (actually I believe all international pax) walk through these barriers

I believe this sickness is only dangerous to cattle, humans aree immune, and if somebody gets it is light disease (please tell me if I made an english language mistake)
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g-beak
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 3:37 am

In Glasgow they are confiscating Maltesers.
 
Demoose
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 3:51 am

At my local airport, Manchester, passengers travelling outside the UK are not allowed to take any fresh meat or dairy products with them, and notices have been placed around the airport reminding passengers of this. Thats all really,
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TriStar
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 4:03 am

OSL has disembarking pax walk through disinfecting baths.

I know that's not a direct answer to the question, which is in fact about the UK, but there you go, anyway. I hope it is of some interest.

Best regards,

TriStar.
 
jaysit
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 4:07 am

At IAD there is a sign that says "those caught bringing in EU meat will be force fed Tofu for 7 days while in quarantine."
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Olympic A-340
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 5:56 am

Well I don't know how similar the human case of Hand, foot, and mouth is to the cow version, but I have had it once when I was 12. I must have eaten some bad meat or something...I lost 4 lbs, and could barely eat because I had A LOT of sores on my mouth.

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EGGD
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 6:35 am

Well there are probably no precautions here at BRS because we get next to no pax anyway :P

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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 6:48 am

We are not the ones bringing down the worlds economy....

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englandair
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 7:16 am

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I had the human form too, but when I was still a baby.
 
prebennorholm
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 8:55 am

There are many countries in the world where FMD is constantly suppressed by vaccinating the animals. Not in Western Europe and North America however, and hopefully it will never be needed.
But thousands of planes are constantly, and have always been, departing from "FMD vaccinating countries" where nobody can ever know if he becomes a carrier of the FMD virus.
All this shoe spraying is probably okay to make people aware that they must behave sensibly. But if it should have any real effect, then it should be done even on domestic flights in countries thousands of miles away from any FMD outbreak. A domestic passenger can never know if he walks on the same floor carpet as a foreign passenger from a FMD suppressing country. Therefore, to have any effect, the spraying should always be done all over the world on international and domestic flights, never mind if there is an outbreak somewhere in the world or not.
Or all international traffic should be banned.

There are always some funny and irrational reactions every time such disasters strike. For instance, as there are 219 outbreaks in Britain and one in France, the USA and Canada has banned all imports from all fifteen EU countries, but not from Switzerland, a non-EU country which is totally surrounded by EU countries. Highly irrational knowing that by far the most dangerous spreading of FMD virus is the wind. It is like if a Colorado bug bites a potato in Maine, then I should stop drinking Californian wine.

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ren41
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 9:51 am

Here at BOS there was a big story on the news and everyone coming from london had to be searched for meat and step in the disinfectant.

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widebody
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 9:58 am

Bout time, the British have been very lax in their response to FMD, and this is why the bloody disease continues to spread.....251 cases last count.......they should be held responsible for the countries it spreads to.......I wouldn't mind if they were making a serious effort to contain it, if they were doing all they could, but their response is pathetic.......
 
travelin man
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RE: Foot-and-Mouth Precautions?

Fri Mar 16, 2001 10:15 am

Sorry, but I don't think the U.S. and Canada are overreacting, nor do I think it is "irrational" to ban beef from Europe. There is a huge beef industry here, and if it became infected, it would really hurt farmers and the economy.

To keep us eating hamburgers, I'm willing to step in some disinfectant. And I don't think we imported much meat from the EU anyway. We grow a lot of our own!
 
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RE: Travelin_man

Fri Mar 16, 2001 11:02 am

Dear Travelin_man, you are obviously responding to my earlier post. But you missed the point.
Of course you must fight as hard as possible to keep the FMD out of your country.
Exactly the same way as thirteen EU countries, which are exactly as "clean" as your country, and all other clean countries fight to stay out.
It is so obvious that any four years old child understands it that all clean countries in the world should unite their forces to stay out - and help the unlucky countries the best they can.
But anyway your country automatically puts for instance my country plus twelve more EU countries in the same basket as the two unlucky countries.
And of course Switzerland is the case which proves your irrationality beyond any doubt.
The way your country reacts - and your own post - fits exactly to my Maine Colorado-bug / California wine theory. Anyway I will keep on drinking Californian wine.
Best regards, Preben Norholm
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RE: Travelin_man

Fri Mar 16, 2001 11:23 am

Flew into JFK last Thursday (March 8th) from LHR on BA and there were no precautionary measures whatsoever.

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