Herman
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Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Fri Mar 16, 2001 10:46 pm

Hi,

My Topic is my question !

Anyone out there who has any idea, please reply !

Thank You

Cheers
 
NUAir
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Fri Mar 16, 2001 11:14 pm

You might have problems in some very Islamic countries. But then again the pilots have to drink something.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


P.S. don't bother asking LH about a direct route from Munich to Milwaukee where you get to eat an unlimited amount of bratwurst and drink beer by the gallon. It's been suggested.

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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Fri Mar 16, 2001 11:43 pm

Saudi Arabian, most flights into Saudi don't serve alcohol. Royal Brunei don't, but you can take your own on board and drink it!
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Fri Mar 16, 2001 11:48 pm

Iran Air don't. I guess Ariana don't as well.

Not sure about PIA?
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gkirk
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Fri Mar 16, 2001 11:50 pm

Probably most of the Islamic carriers . I am sure that alcohol is against their religion or something. Someone confirm this or correct this?
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 12:03 am

Kuwait Airways don't
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:27 am

BA and Virgin are very generous indeed. Aer Lingus are crazy, I flew a 40 minute flight from LHR to DUB and they came around pouring from 70cl bottles. Everyone was wasted then they got off the plane.
 
Herman
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:29 am

Malaysia Airlines does !!

How contradictory !!!!!!  Angry

Garuda too, hmm Emirates !!
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:35 am

Several airlines from Islamic countries do not serve alcohol, particularly Saudia, Kuwait Airways, and Iran Air. It's mainly because alcohol is against the Islamic religion, and because of that, often illegal in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran.
 
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List Of Airlines That Don't Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:36 am

PIA--Pakistan International Airlines
Aero Asia
Bhoja Air
Safe Air International--doesn't operate currently
Shaheen Air International
Saudi Arabian Airlines
Kuwait Airways
Royal Brunei Airways
Ariana Afghanistan--doesn't operate currently
Iran Air
A Few others as well.
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:37 am

There are certain "dry areas" in Canada that First Air (Canada)flys over; at this time they do not serve alcohol.
 
swake
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:40 am

I remember flying them BRU-DUB on Good Friday. When asked what to drink they offered me 2 bottles of red wine. Delirious!! Till I deboarded and found out that all pubs were closed for .. Yeah right  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:40 am

I have a feeling that in the future, all airlines in america are going to be non-alcohol beverages due to increase of air rage passengers. If indeed, blame on those immature passengers.
 
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RE: Parra

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:43 am

I was talking about EI (sorry, forgot that)
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:43 am

Yes,

Islam forbids strictly its followers from drinking anything alcoholic, let alone serving it. Although most Islamic dominated countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Brunei and Iran banned the serving of alcohols onboard the airlines, certain Islamic countries airlines do serve alcohols onboard. Examples EK, MH, GA and maybe a few others. They can serve alcohol onboard but provided the alcoholic drinks must be served by a non-Muslim. Hope this helps.

Warm Regards
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 3:24 am

BA does serve alcohol on flights to Saudi, but "the bar closes" once the a/c is over Saudi airspace.

Alcohol is not neccesarily banned COMPLETELY in Muslim countries. There are various venues where the consumption of alcohol in Saudi, for example, is legal.

They include private compounds for the foreign workers, any Embassy from a non-Muslim country (the territory is regarded as belonging to the country which the embassy represents), and private beaches for the employees of foreign workers.

Women are additionally allowed to unveil themselves within these compounds/areas.

But to drink alcohol etc. in public is a blatant violation of the law in Saudi, and would also seriously offend Muslims.

That's the deal in Saudi!
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 3:33 am

Hey Cap...are Jews allowed into Saudi I would love to go visit and see it for myself.

rgds
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 3:55 am

Shalom!

Yes, BUT-you obviously shouldn't make a big deal about it.

I am not certain whether there is a specific law which bans all Jewish people from entering KSA (probably not, actually), but they definitely won't let you in with Israeli stamps in your passport. As I also have an Argentine passport, I wriggled my way out of that one fairly easily!

You also need a legit reason for entering "The Kingdom". (Business trip/family/citizen). As my Dad works out there, obviously they have to let me in with a residence permit.

Otherwise, there are Tour Companies which specialise in going round all the various ruins etc, and you could join one of those.

I wear a pendant around my neck with the Star of David. I remove this on a friend's advice, every time I fly back to Saudi-it is not a big deal really, but it might get me into a hassle at immigration, and I don't like taking risks.

It is quite a fascinating country if you ever get to come out here, and the locals are most hospitable.

If you find it too much of a hassle to try and "get in", you might want to consider the UAE, which has similar scenery, but no problems with people of Jewish faith.

Hope that helped.
It is a difficult country to get into, but fascinating.

n.b. Just for some background info, I've also been christened!!! Big grin Fortunately, my parents never forced me into any religion, and as a consequence I have respect for all of them. Went to Israel this Xmas-also a fascinating country!!

Cheers
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 4:27 am

CaptPicard,

There are various venues where the consumption of alcohol in Saudi, for example, is legal.

Can you name me one that doesn't have to do with an embassy or the military?

I know that EVERY compound has a bar, but they arent legal, I think that the word "ignored" comes to mind.

Saudia will not even allow you to carry alcohol on board, at some destinations you are searched, if any is found they will confiscate it.

As for Jews entering the country, do you know of any who have done so?
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 4:41 am

Hi Ambasaid

Take it easy, I was only trying to provide some info to those who might be interested!!

I don't know what SV's policy is, I only mentioned what BA's was.

Perhaps it is not strictly legal as regards the compounds, but that doesn't affect the embassies or military compounds. I'm not a legal expert, I'll admit that.

Can I name you one venue that doesn't include those mentioned? No, but that wasn't my point, and in any case, I did say that it was NOT allowed in public. And apart from that, I'm sure you'll agree that there are a lot of contradictions regarding alcohol consumption etc. in KSA..... Big grin

My point was, that alcohol IS consumed in KSA, just not in public!!

And finally, yes, I do know of Jews who have entered the country:

1) Me
2) My mother
3) My sister
4) My cousins
5) At least 3 others we know, employed in KSA, and living in our compound, are Jewish. (Though they do not practise the religion).

Cheers
CP

 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:00 am

Capt.Picard,

Sorry for jumping on you, its late and I'm half way through a nice bottle of local wine.

Now I am intrigued, what religion did you enter on the entry card?

The last Jewish guy that I met in Saudi was an executive with Tower Air, they actually went as far as increasing the security around his hotel during his stay.

I have never heard of crews having problems, but with the Saudi paranoia I doubt that Jewish tourists will be allowed for a while.

As for the booze, I have a couple of friends who are "guests of the country" at the moment for drink driving outside a consulate. If they are lucky they will just get one-way tickets out, if not they will be lashed.

As for contradictions regarding drinking, I think that I would go further and call it sheer hypocrisy.

Cheers....
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:13 am

Ambasaid,

Enjoy your wine.

In the box, I simply print "n/a". They're ok with that.
Otherwise, I could legitimately put "christian", as I was christened, after all.

As I pointed out to TWA, a Jewish person CAN get in, so long as he doesn't mind "hiding" it.

I am Jewish by "Jewish law". If the mother is Jewish, that makes the offspring "Jewish", whether they believe/practise the religion or not.

In my case, due to my parents, it is a little complicated.

Anyway, have good evening!

Captain Picard, the half-Jew, half-Catholic, half-Argentine, half-Brit. Big grin Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:23 am

Capt.Picard

Pardon my ignorance, but your faith passes down on your mothers side and not your fathers?


Good night.

 
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Capt. Picard

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:32 am

Better watch out Capt. Picard... they're going to look for you at the border now Big grin
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:35 am

According to "Jewish Law", yes that is the case.

Either way, I don't align myself to any one religious belief.

As I am not a religious person, I honestly don't really care how the system works. But as I said, my parents taught me tolerance, and I therefore respect other people's beliefs.

I was christened, because that was the wish of my Catholic grandparents. My Jewish grandparents graciously accepted that, and I am most grateful for having such a tolerant family on either side.

What this has got to do with Civil Aviation is beyond me, but I would quite happily fly with SV etc, as I quite like Apple juice on the rocks... Big grin

Cheers
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:36 am

Morecy-

I honestly hope not!!!!!!!!! Big grin
 
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Capt. Picard

Sat Mar 17, 2001 5:42 am

as long as your passport doesn't say Capt. Picard, you should be OK  Smile
 
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El Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 12:53 pm

Hey to anyone who has flown El Al do you know if they let minors drink? Muhahaha.... the fifteen hour flight is gonna be hell without a little of grandpa's old cough medicine.... though even if I do my Rabbi would probably kill me... anyway thats besides the point. Do they? I mean according to Judaism *technically* I am a young adult, and have been for a while.... anyway replies obviously welcome.
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 1:11 pm

To: Western737 ...if US Airlines do ban Alcohol on US FLights..this will only be a continuation of the fact that Americans have less and less liberties which our founding fathers faught for !! That's why we have the right to keep and bear arms ..because If the Government ever started to turn Fascist (as it already is) we would have a way to protect ourselves!!! we must be vigilant Just like Thomas Jefferson said !!! and not let the government do this to us ever...I am happy to say that I don't think this would happen under GWB's watch..maybe Klintoon's ...Always remember this: FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH , GOOD MEN MUST DO NOTHING .... please be vigilant ..and keep America Free from government oppression.

MATT

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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:33 pm

SV isnt going to hire native born Saudi flight attendants right?????? And women flying Saudia lets say from JFK-Jeddah and they are none Muslim must they wear veil upon boarding the Saudi flight . Just asking ?????
Chepos
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 4:15 pm

Chepos,

I've never flown with SV, so I really couldn't answer your question.

However, it isn't apprently neccesary for the women to veil themselves until past immigration at Riyadh, as they seem to tolerate unveiled women within the airport.

Most veil themselves before getting off the plane though.

SJC, I flew LY at Xmas, but don't know what their policy is, as regards giving THAT sort of cough medicine to minors Big grin

Actually, a sweet almond-like liquor was passed around the cabin inflight, I fail to remember the name though. It tasted rather nice (not Amaretto!).

cp
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sat Mar 17, 2001 10:54 pm

Chepos,

SV don't hire local female FA's, they only hire local females to work in their medical clinic.

There is no requirement for anyone to wear a veil on flights, I have seen tourists in shorts and t-shirts sitting beside women in full traditional outfits on flights to the Far East. Quite humorous.

 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sun Mar 18, 2001 1:17 pm

Thank You for answering my question . But SV was planning to start hiring native born saudi FA's but they had to be accompanied with a male realtive and the flights had to be domestic , but a day later SV backed away as the very strict muslims began protesting .
And my question for the veiling thing is because on Iran Air a woman as soon as she boards the Iran Air flight she must wear veil at least that is what the website says .
Chepos
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sun Mar 18, 2001 4:47 pm

Haha thanks Picard.... and..... well its a little late but Shabbat Shalom anyway.......
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Sun Mar 18, 2001 9:50 pm

Chepos,

Dont believe all that you read in the newspapers. Saudi society will not accept local women as FA's. This occupation is definitely not considered respectable and would be considered a disgrace for many families.

Personally i think that they should allow females be pilots, at least they they wouldnt have to mix with the male passengers.

 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:23 am

I doubt very very seriously if the US airlines will ever go alcohol free. It generates too much cash for the airlines. Above all the first class and business class passengers would scream to beat hell!! They are not about to pay that kind of money and not served alcohol when they want.
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:59 am

Ambasaid I did not read it in the newspapers I read it at Airliners Daily news it was official news . They were actually considering it but the conservatives got very upset and SV backed out .
Chepos
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:07 pm

Capt.Picard, thank you very much for enlightening us on the situation in KSA for foreigners. It is very interesting.
 
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RE: Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol

Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:10 pm

Sorry if I repeat something already said - because I haven't read them all...
Most Asian airlines will serve for free, some will not though, A few years ago Qantas wouldn't.

Regards
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