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Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:43 am

I've read it somewhere...
What do you think Airbus means with this?
BWB planes or something even more strange?? I can't imagine a non-conventional aircraft. If u guys are able to it, please describe what u have in mind!!!

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Boing&AirbRulz
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:55 am

maybe theyre going military??
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:58 am

That's probably it. Since they have an a/c to fit almost every market demand, there is no need to develop another conventional a/c. You know, with the 320 series, 330 series, 340 series, and future 380 series. I would probably guess a BWB plane like you suggested. Maybe one with exceptional range or efficiency.

The 310 isn't in production anymore right? The 318 and 319 are part of the 320 fam right?
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:06 pm

Well I'm waiting for a reliable, cheap for us passengers and comfortable supersonic aircraft to replace the good old Concorde...
Does a BWB have a structure to support supersonic flights?? Is Northrop B-2 a supersonic plane?

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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:11 pm

The BWB plans on the book are all subsonic. The B-2 has a max speed listed as "high subsonic". Of course the exact number is classified. I'm hoping for a 200-300 passenger supersonic airliner that is only marginally more expensive than current subsonic a/c.

For your other questions: The A310 is still available for order and there are still orders for the A300, and yes, the A318 and A319 are based on the A320.
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:13 pm

I dont think any plane manufacturer is going to develop a supersonic transport anytime soon . It wold be a too big of a risk and not a lot of airlines are interested at the moment oin supersonic aircraft .
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:23 pm

I think with a growing number of people with Y economic class syndrome, reducing flight times would be a solution. Well I don't have problems with Y class but I would love to fly at more than sound's speed if tickets weren't to expensive!

CPDC10-30, thanks for your answer!

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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:31 pm

BWB stands for Blended Wing something, I forgot what the last word is, but its a huge plane, that has seats in the wings instead of a long fuselage. Maybe someone knows a little more than me. This is all I know about it.
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:31 pm

Sorry for the dumb question...  Laugh out loud

What's a BWB plane??  Confused

thanx...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:37 pm

BWB stands for Blended Wing Body. It means that the there is no detectable fuselage, the entire airplane is in the form of a wing. The only currently flying aircraft that is a BWB is the B-2 and F-117 to a lesser extent.

This is a picture of a small-scaled BWB that MD tested just before it was gobbled up by Boeing:

 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:38 pm

Gobbled up by Boeing? Could that be anti-Boeing?

MD didn't have to sell to Boeing, THEY AGREED TO.
 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:45 pm

Boeing747-400:
You mean the shareholders agreed to.

You are trying very hard to use any comment I make as anti-Boeing, but it isn't going to work. Do a search on my past 1471 posts.

Everyone else, please ignore this user, he is obviously having a very bad day.
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 12:49 pm

Ah, who gives a hell either way. Gobbled up, not gobbled up. Its just a figure of speech.
 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 1:23 pm

I am having a good day. I am not trying to make any of your posts Anti-Boeing, but that "gobbled up" thing was out of line my friend.
 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 1:51 pm

Wasn't Boeing747-400 leaving the forum because he said there's so much anti-boeing stuff going around in the forum? he's back again? or is it somebody else in the non-aviation forum ?
 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 2:09 pm

No, I just took a long break, it's me.
 
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RE: BWB FAQ

Sun Mar 18, 2001 2:19 pm

Glad you didn't leave.
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 2:26 pm

No, I don't think the line is complete yet. After all, doesn't Airbus need a 150-200 seater high MTOW aircraft to compete head on with the 757? The 757 can be ETOPS certified and fly trans-Atlantic while the A321 cannot.

Boeing747-400, who cares about what words CPDC10-30 uses - I'm sure we all understand what he means. And I can hardly see how "gobbled up" can be anti-Boeing. Stop trying to light up wars just because Airbus is proceeding with an aircraft that will overtake your beloved 747, which BTW cannot live forever as with all other aircraft designs.

Rgds,
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Sun Mar 18, 2001 4:50 pm

I don't know if they are even going to do new projects. I mean if they could build a more efficient and better airplane they would have probably done it already. My best guess is that the research costs to develop such an aircraft, still outweigh the money it would save in the long run, and thus prevents the research from even beginning.
 
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RE: Airbus Told A380 Is Their Last Conventional Plane

Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:26 am

This is sort of old news published Dec'00. But it does explain why Boeing started emphasizing/leaking, respectively, their BWB and Mach.95 projects early this year:
http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRHeft/FRH0101/FR0101e.htm
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