teahan
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September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 9:27 am

Hey,

I spent a bit of time looking through old flight internationals this afternoon. One interesting article I found was from my September 1996 4th-10th issue. It had an interesting article about the B747 700X. I am sure most of you remember the 500X and 600X project which failed because of lack of customer demand and rising costs. The one part I never remembered was the 700X



Facts:

-- 650 Seats in 3 Classes
-- Same wing, undercarriage and engines as the 500X and 600X.
-- Availible early 2007
-- Short Range Bulk Carrier

Here is the full article I scanned if anyone is interested:
http://www.flightsimmers.net/airport/kerry/B747

Comments/Views/Opinions?

KInd Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan

Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 9:29 am

Yup, that's the NLA. I think it looks better than A380, no offence Airbus fans, please, it's my opinion.

I think they designed it in the early 80's.


They should build it now and call it the new 747 instead.  Smile
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 9:50 am

The -500/-600 were suspended cause of lack of demand, what about this one? Did they take it anywhere beyond 'a rubber aircraft'?
 
teahan
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 9:57 am

Hey,

BoeingB747-400, are you trying to turn this into an A vs B thread? That stupid "I think it looks better than A380" was totally uncalled for.

If you bothered reading the article, you would have seen that it as not designed in the 80s, it was instead based on the B747 500X and 600X!

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan
Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:09 am

hey teahan, if you knew how to read, maybe you would have read that Boeing747-400 said" no offence airbus fans, just my opinion" So, why you gonna knock the guy? geez. You must be one of those people who doesnt mind other peoples' opinions, just as long as they agree with you. ok, sorry that i got off topic, just that that post irritated me.

OK, we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread  Smile
 
teahan
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:27 am

Hey,

I think we all know his opinion at this stage. That statement was obviously posted to start a war!

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan
Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:54 am

Just a small correction, the NLA was never actually designed, it was a concept that was not taken any further.....I don't know why, it had potential......
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:57 am

What first of all makes the A380 look a little weird is the low flight deck on the lower floor. It is very practical when it comes to landing the aircraft that the pilots sit as low as possible. But it is not practical for fitting a front loading cargo door as on some 747Fs.
This 747-700X or NLA proposal has the flight deck on 2nd floor as all other 747s. And maybe its designers were also thinking about fitting a front door on a cargo version.
The A380 nose looks "wrong" simply because it is the only plane with another deck above the flight deck. But for those of us, who think that all well thought out functionality is beautiful, the A380 is a beautiful bird.
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:24 am

Hey! Boeing747-400 is just expressing his opinion. What's wrong with that? Can't he just say what he prefers?

What the hell is that? That's kind of over reacted.

By the way, which one is bigger? The B 747-700X or the A 380?
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:13 pm

Hi,

I've also read in a book about Monster Machines, and in one chapter, they describe about Boeing's NLA, McDonnell Douglas' NLA and Airbus' NLA. The Boeing's version of the NLA was called B747-SDD-X, SDD stands for Super Double Decker. The MD's version of the NLA was called the MD-12X and the Airbus' version, well, you should know it.

However, the 747-SDD-X I saw in that book, has a nose of the original 747, but the -700X doesn't.

About the "rumoured" A vs B in this forum, I have only this to say. The -700X has its own aesthetic features and the A380 has its own aesthetic features. Although I prefer A380, I do still love the 747-500X/600X and the NLA 747-700X to become a reality. Each aircraft has its own "beauty from within".

Warm Regards
Ishak Ismail
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 12:36 pm

United Airlines, thanks for your support!

The 747-700X or NLA is bigger than A380.
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 2:00 pm

Yeah, I read something about the B747-700X. I thought it was a widened B747-600X. In "Aircraft Illustrated November 1996" there was an article titled "Battle of the Super Jumbos". It didn't mention a double decker and stated that the B747-700X would have:

1) wider body
2) retain existing wings (B747-600X)
3) landing gears
4) struts
5) engines
6) retain the raised extended upper deck

A paragraph from the article:

"Neverhteless, the fact that Boeing is pushing this third member of the extended B747 family, suggests that the US manufacturer is worried about the A3XX - and specifically the A3XX-200.....Boeing is nervous about full double-deckers, but does not explain quite why - and will have an approximately 1.5m wider fuselage, permitting an additional seat on either side. Entry into service would be around 2007."
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 5:14 pm

The NLA proposal is so ugly, I am glad that they didn't build it.

For all those Boeing fans here, while Boeing747-400 was giving his opinions here, Teahan is ALSO giving his opinions here. So why can't Teahan think that Boeing747-400 is starting a war while Boeing747-400 can think that the NLA looks better than the A380 ?
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 5:30 pm

The 747-700X I read about was indeed also a sort of 747 kind of aircraft, so no full ouble decker, but with one or two more seats per row, so a wider fuselage. IT would have a lot of commonality with the existing 747s.
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:58 pm

Boeing747-400: I don't think you flamed such A vs B. But if my memory serves well, NLA was not different so from 380. (I've seen NLA model in U.S. space in Expo 93 and I thought this project name was 2707, but because it was complete double-decker it was NLA.) So for what did you think NLA was looked better?

Preben: We're looking another plane that has deck over flight deck: Super Transporter.
 
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RE: September 1996 Article --> B747 700X

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:05 pm

I like that 747-700X, so bad that Boeing didn't finisht all this project before.


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RE: Oxygen

Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:50 am

"Teahan is ALSO giving his opinions here" - yes, but he was personally offensive (the word "stupid" is enough to say this). While Boeing747-400 only said something that was said plenty of times here ("Which is the nicest aircraft" appears here almost once a week). BTW, your "the NLA proposal is so ugly" without at least "seems to me" is much closer to be commented as "obviously posted to start a war!"  Smile .

"What first of all makes the A380 look a little weird is the low flight deck on the lower floor." - agree 100% with Preben. For me it even looks not "little" but "very" weird, but it's all subjective, and who cares of it now when Boeing NLA is in the same place as Boeing 2707 while A380 has more than 60 orders...

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