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All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 4:34 pm

From the A318 up to the A380, Airbus offers a wide range of modern Aircraft's. Which Airlines do you think will go all Airbus in the next five years ?
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 4:59 pm

JetBlue is an all Airbus Airline. In the future there might be Lufthansa, Swissair, LTU, Sabena, Air Canada, United Airlines.... just to name a few.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 5:01 pm

United Airlines is not likely to become an all airbus airliner.
They are very happy with their boeing types 747/757/767/777.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 5:21 pm

Skyservice Airlines is all Airbus. 5 A320's and 1 A330. Roots Air will be all Airbus as soon as more A320 aircrafts are avail. to replace the 727 when she comes in.

I think US Airways will have an all Airbus fleet soon.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 5:34 pm

As far as canadian airlines go, Roots Air and C3 will be all airbus in the next 5 years.

C3 will have the 310 (ex-royal), A319, A320, A330 and A340.

Roots with the A330 and A320, I believe.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 7:42 pm

Singapore Airlines's subsidary airline - Silkair - all its 6 planes are Airbus A 320 and A 319. Silkair has phased out B737 since last year.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 7:45 pm

I don't think it will really happen as Boeing and Airbus offer different aircrafts with different ranges, seats etc.

Only the small airlines, like Dragonair(Hong Kong) can do this with a whole fleet of Airbus!
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 8:39 pm

Now don't anyone flame me for this.

Northwest could eventually but not in the next five years because they are ordering more 757s inc the -300 and the 747-400.

The 727s are being replaced by the A320 and I think the A319 will replace some DC-9 routes as it already has been. I kind of think that the A318 will replace the smaller DC-9s. I doubt that Northwest will go for the 737 or the 717 because they will want fleet commonality and stick with Airbus for the small end of the fleet. Don't forget, Airbus has plans and models for the A316 and A317 also, but that doesn't mean they will fly.

If Northwest is really satisfied by the A330, they may replace the old 747-200s with A340s. Eventually (but not in the next 5 years) you may see the A380 replace the 744.

For the 757s? If Airbus would develop what could be known as the A322, that might a possible candidate.

USAirways was probably going to be the first U.S. airline using an all Airbus fleet of MORE than one type (Jet Blue only has 1 type- A320, so no one correct me on that).

But I doubt any of the other US majors will become all airbus, other than Northwest who has the best chance of doing so in perhaps the next ten years or so, but not anytime soon. It all depends on how much they like the A330s, that will make the difference.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:17 pm

TAP Air Portugal will soon retire their last B737-300 and will have an all airbus fleet:

4 A340-300

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making a total of 34 Airbuses. And as u see its fleet is bigger than Dragonair and TAP is not that small...

In the past TAP had only Boeings with B747s, B707s and a huge fleet of B727 and B737. Changing times... Don't forget Portugal is part of European Union.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:47 pm

I would doubt if someone says a carrier bigger than SR to go all-Airbus, because it would need one of 777-300 and 747, which Airbus hardly can replace with. 5 years remained for 380 to come out. And, don't forget, Airbus only makes jet airliners, and the smallest is 319, far bigger than 717.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 10:52 pm

Grupo Taca will have all airbus fleet but in more than five years, with a fleet of A-319 (passanger), A-320 (passanger), and A-300(cargo). They will be retiering all their 737-200.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:01 pm

Frontier will be all-Airbus by 2005, replacing 737-200 and 737-300 with A318 and A319 (and perhaps A320)?
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:10 pm

I think a couple of other airlines in Europe could go all-Airbus fleet by 2006.

Iberia (IB) is a very good candidate to do this. Don't be surprised that IB buys a whole bunch more A320 Family planes in the next few years. This will allow IB to fly A320/A321's from their MIA mini-hub to destinations in Central America.

I won't be surprised if IB buys the A330-200/300 series and possibly the A340-500/600 series to serve BCN and MAD from around the world; people forget that Spain is now a major tourist destination, especially the Costa del Sol area.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:21 pm

Aer Lingus will soon be all Airbus..they'll have A319, A320, A321, A330 and a few A340's are rumoured......
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Mon Mar 19, 2001 11:59 pm

RayChuang is right... Iberia's CEO stated some time ago that the iairline goal is to operate an all airbus fleet. The 757 are being gradually replaced by A321..While the MD80's and 87 will be replaced by A329 and 20's.
The company is also studyin type to replace their aging fleet of 747... (maybe this yaer?)
The 767's are actaully wet-leased from Air Europa and the A330 could fit on their fleet...
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:34 am

TAP will also be getting the A330-200 to replace the A310's. At least that's what i hear.  Smile
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:46 am

Well there is jet blue which is all airbus right now. I dont really know, there also is Air Tahiti Nuy.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:04 am

JM is almost there, A310's, A320's A321's and a A340. Only 2 MD80's, and my guess is they will be gone when the leases are up.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:36 am

German charter airline Aero Lloyd, too, has an all Airbus fleet consisting of A320/A321 aircraft.

As far as I am informed, Air Tahiti Nuy is operating an ex AF A340-200 as its sole aircraft.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:32 am

Presently, the largest all-airbus operator in the world is Indian Airlines (IC).

They have a fleet of 14 A300s and 30 A320s.

Their 44 Airbus aircraft also make them Airbus' largest customer in Asia.
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:43 am

Sabena-

Since all remaining B737-300/-400/-500 will be phased out within 2 years and the MD-11s were recently returned to Citybird, Sabena will soon be an all Airbus airline.

Mind you that Sabena is the only airline in the world to have all FBW Airbus types in their fleet!
A319
A320
A321
A330
A340

 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 3:01 am

Isn't Swissair going all Airbus? I think so.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 3:25 am

Air Canada has recently purchased new 767-300ER and is intending to keep the 747-400. They will not become all-airbus anytime in the near future.

US Airways however was trying to become all-airbus.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 3:30 am

TAM of Brazil is on its way as well.
It has 5 A330-200 plus 5 on option
6 A319 plus 6 A320 from a firm order of 47 plus 48 options and its is phasing out its 37 F100s.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 3:54 am

Could be IC. With the weay things are going, IC could well become an all-Airbus carrier.

At present IC operates 13 A300B4's, and 32 A320's. 12 ageing 737-200's are due for replacement, and the A318 is a hot favorite, since it shares fleet commonality with the A320's it already operates, and the A321's it plans to procure.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 5:23 am

IndianGuy -

Actually, IC has only 30 A320s. 31 were delivered and 1 was written off at Bangalore in 1990.

Also, IC operates 7 A300B2s, 4 A300B4s and have a *possible* acquisition of 3 more A300B4s from Air India which is looking less likely by the day.

The 737-200s have been officially taken off the books for IC and transferred to the subsidiary Alliance Air.

IC is officially an "All Airbus" carrier!
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Samspain

Tue Mar 20, 2001 5:47 am



The A-321's were removed from service due to disputes with the pilots. IB has announced it would order more 757's.
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 5:51 am

I was going to bring that up, but I couldn't remember the outcome...why did they switch to the 757 instead of just creating a new pilot scale for the A321.....pilots wouldn't need to be trained for it, just change their scale?
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 6:26 am

I guess they paid the price for CASA's growth....
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 3:28 pm

Currently, the A300 fleet stands at 10. The oldest A300 has been scrapped, and 1 more is due to go within the next 2 months.

That is why IC needed AI's A300's, but now i hear that the deal is off. so the fleet strength stays at 10.

IC OWNS 30 A320's, but 3 more A320's are expected to join this month, perhaps they already have.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 7:01 pm

The IB's A321 are currently in service on some European destinations... check it at:

www.iberia.com/iberia_es/acerca_5.jsp?elemento=0000001114

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Tue Mar 20, 2001 7:14 pm

The dispute about the A321 has been solved, more A321 are to come soon. They definitely fly European routes, I've just seen EC-HAC at FRA.

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Wed Mar 21, 2001 4:17 am

TAP Air Portugal, Edelweiss, SilkAir, jetBlue, Indian Airlines & Dragonair are doing a great job with their all Airbus fleet...

Iberia is going to be an all Airbus at sure...

Grupo Taca, TAM Brazil, Swissair & Sabena are both going the same way...

BMI (or British Midland) can do that also...

& just for the records... why not Air Canada? (not in the near future, perhaps in 10 years... & of course, excepting their Bombardier fleet).

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Samspain

Wed Mar 21, 2001 5:45 am


Oh, they haven't sold or replaced all of their A-321's yet. The A-321 has been replaced on some domestic flights, i.e. Madrid-Malaga, which they are being operated with A-300's. But yes, the A-321 will probably be gone from Iberia by the end of the summer season.
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:18 am

767-332ER,

Actually, delivery of the A321s stopped after two had been delivered, because of the pilot issue. That was in 1999.These are still in service. And Udo seems to be right, as Iberia is now scheduled to receive a new A321 in July and another one in August, according to Bill Harms' page.
 
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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:40 am

Ab.400,

United? I hope you're joking. UAL has NO plans to order any Airbus aircraft besides the A319 and A320. They also continue to take deliveries of many 777s and other Boeing aircraft.

Rgds,

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RE: All Airbus Fleet

Thu Mar 22, 2001 9:59 pm

Deliveries of A321 to IB will soon start again and as far as I know they have around 17 units on order. It's quite obvious that IB moves towards an All Airbus narrowbody fleet and that means the A321 will replace B757s on long term as IB has quite many options on the A32X family left...

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