bobbydgg
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L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 9:24 am

What are your opinions of the L1011?
 
twa
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 9:27 am

Best plane ever created. Never will their be another aircraft as good.

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DIA
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 9:29 am

It is a classic three-holer. Surprisingly or unsuprisingly to some, many people have loved the 1011 to this very day, coming up with ways of possibly extending its life.

Why hasn't the 1011 been as loved as the DC-10 when it comes to frieghters as its second life? Is it because there are so many fewer 1011s in existence? Is it a parts issue?

They say the 1011 holds up very well. . .
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Teej13
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 9:34 am

In terms of asthetics, it's big, ugly, and stinky. Performs well though... how else would Air Transat still be in business?  Smile
 
iwantanL1011
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 10:32 am

Quiet

Smooth

Classic

Wide

Memorable

Pilot-Friendly

 
Pendrilsaint
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 11:29 am

butt ugly!!!!???? Dear god the plane is a work of art! how the engine cowling on the tail just flows along...unlike the blocky DC-10...the plane is just gorgeous

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FlagshipAZ
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:22 pm

A fine aircraft. My personal favorite model is the -500.
The L-1011 will go in the annals of aviation for being a classic design, along with the 727. Who can duplicate that tailplane again? Regards.
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AA767400
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:29 pm

Classic airliner! love it!
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:41 pm

The L-10 will forever be one of the best, the classics, the hall of famers. I love that jet.
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airlanka
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:48 pm

It is a grand old bird; beautiful in that red AirLanka livery. Was the workhorse for UL for many years. The FMS (Flight Management System) on board UL -500s were so advanced. Sad that the timing of the introduction of the a/c was not all good, as boeing was testing the 747 idea. Otherwise it could have made it good.

I have flown AirLanka's L-1011 CMB,BKK,DXB,LGW,KUL,SIN and the last flight was SIN-CMB in Aug 1999. I call it one of the most comfortable rides for any a/c.
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DL WIDGET HEAD
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 12:53 pm

This great aircraft caused me to fall madly in love with aviation. I have flown on the L1011 probably over a thousand times (first with EA now with DL) and have loved every minute. I will miss them tremendously as DL only has 8 in service and these will soon retire.
 
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:05 pm

What L-1011 dosent look good . Its a beautifull plane , look at hoe elegant this plane is its just a work of art . All the liveries looked great in this plahne especially the new and old Saudi livery . Delta , TWA, Eastern they all looked great in the L-1011 . I had the great privilege to fly on board one of those magnificent birds and it is one of the smoothest rides ever . If u live in the states hurry up and book a flight on one od DL's L-1011'S as soon as possible as they are leaving soon.
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:12 pm

I love those old tri-stars in the classic TWA scheme. I really miss them. All in all, I say it was a great aircraft that was very much underappreciated.
 
Western737
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 10:02 pm

Unfortunately, I guess I rode at wrong time. Delta were getting rid of them so they didnt keep them in good shape when I flew it. I wasn't impressed with L-1011 and wasn't really feel sad to see them go. I looked at that plane as we left the gate and said to myself that I am glad that I dont have to fly that junk plane again. I flew 767-400 on next flight after long flight on L-1011 and that is when I finally was comfortable and relaxed.
 
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 10:22 pm

I think the L1011 is great. That's why we at Y airlines will be operating an all L-1011 fleet (as soon as we get the phone number of those guys out in Arizona with so many of them parked).

One reason we like them so much is that they don't have GE engines and are therefore unlikely to incur the wrath of TEDSKI.

By the way, all those really low fares are for stand by. There has been some confusion.

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Notarzt
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 10:40 pm

DIA,

The problem with L-1011 freighters is their payload/range characteristics. Even the most advanced long-body L-1011, the -250, cannot line up with the DC-10-30 in terms of payload/range (although they are very close to the 'Ten'). The L-1011 freighter, the -200 being the most suitable model, is ideal for max. cargo volume needs on medium- to long-haul operations but not for max. payload on long routes.

Daniel
 
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 10:43 pm

The last great 'designed' airliner, where it appears aesthetics were as much a part of the design brief as performance, engineering and comfort.

Had the Lockheed/RR development partnership been blessed with angels and not demons, there is no doubt that there would be a family of Lockheed twins and maybe even four ups, plying todays air routes, and the world of commercial aviation would be a much happier place for us pax!

What would they have called the twin? L2011?? and maybe the four up L4011?

L1011 - P F M
 
Notarzt
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RE: L1011

Tue Mar 20, 2001 11:20 pm

Shankly,

The twin was dubbed "TriStar 600" or "L-1011-600". I assume the model designations would have remained unchanged as "L-1011" as long as derived from the original L-1011-1 fuselage.

Daniel
 
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 12:12 am

Wonderful, big jet its my favorite by far. We have 18 of them in service and I enjoy flying on them any chance I can get. I especially like the 1/150's because the noises those RR 211-22b's make is just one of the best sounds especially on start up/taxi/ and when the apply power.
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 12:38 am

I think if Lockheed smartly designed the L1011 so it could accommodate the Pratt & Whitney JT9D or General Electric CF6 engines in the first place, Lockheed would still be in business building widebody airliners even now.

I envisage in this alternative circumstance twin-engined widebody airliners using the basic L1011 fuselage design but longer in length and powered by 70,000 lb. thrust engines.
 
rapo
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 12:51 am

If Lockheed made a two holer, wouldn't it have been called a "Bistar"?

 
shankly
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 2:20 am

Nah. "TwinStar" for the two and the four holer "QuadStar".

RayChuang. If Lockheed had offered the two other engine alternatives, it would have radically altered the design and probably cost as much time as was lost with the RR's.

Maybe the DC company should have offered the 10 with those RR's and attracted loyal RR users such as BA?

I am always amused and pleased to see that the old 1011 still rouses much interest in both old and new aviation nuts. Not long from now there will only be one 1011 flying...and then none...
L1011 - P F M
 
Notarzt
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 3:31 am

Shankly,

The "TwinStar" name was introduced much later. The original twinjet design was just dubbed "L-1011-600".

>Not long from now there will only be one 1011 flying...
>and then none...

That depends on what you call "not long from now"...!?! May be 10 years? Then you might be correct.

Daniel
 
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 3:35 am

noisy
 
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 3:50 am

Greatest plane ever! Even better than Concorde and 747!!!
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Fod
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 5:47 am

Like many have already stated: Great Plane!

I think the best thing about it is its unique character; that a/c has personality. The CAD engineered models of today have a sterile, antiseptic feel to them despite their efficiency. My wife and I go ATL just to see the puff of blue smoke at start-up and hear the “mooing” of the RR engines. Last time we went, my wife almost cried thinking of aviation without Tri-Stars! We flew some DL L10s to Hawaii on our honeymoon and the flights are some of our favorite memories. I will miss them very much. The old L10s played a major part fostering in my passion for aviation. It is too bad they cannot operate forever.
 
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:26 am

There is a L1011 operating in the Middle East in Delta colours but without Delta titles.
Any idea who is operating it?

 
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RE: L1011

Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:45 am

The sad part to see them go is about the whole "personality" thing. Those planes had personality. 767-400 doesn't have a personality. A-320 doesn't have a personality. But A-340 or a 727 - they do have personality.
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