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Boeing For Japan Only!?

Thu Mar 22, 2001 5:02 pm

Is that the JAL and ANA domestic's B747 series are especially designed by Boeing for them ONLY??

When I went on board the JAL B747 ( Sapporo to Haneda) , the safety card said it is a B744, but I found it a bit different-more seats, less galley, different shape of the plane- from normal B744.
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RE: Boeing For Japan Only!?

Thu Mar 22, 2001 9:09 pm

Yes, that´s right; they are specially designated 747 SR ("short range"). The most visible difference is the lack of winglets: the fuel savings on these short routes are marginal and for the two winglets less they can put in two pax more. Additionally, the gear is strengthened due to the high number of landings these planes have to do compared to their long range counterparts.
Pax capacity is 569.
The deadliest single airplane crash involved a JAL 747SR, killing 520 people in 1985.

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RE: Airsicknessbag, No.

Sun Mar 25, 2001 7:50 pm

It killed 555 people. After this accident, both of JAL and ANA reduced several seats.
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RE: Boeing For Japan Only!?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 8:03 pm

I don't think that the 747SR is only available in Japan, it's just that it's the only market for such a plane.

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RE: Boeing For Japan Only!?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 12:50 am

Heard that this 747 accident was Boeing's fault. JAL had a Boeing crew fix the tail section bulk head which suffered tail skid damage on a previous flight. Unfortunately they did not do it correctly and caused the aircraft to depressurize and the tail controls to fail causing the aircraft to crash.

RE: Boeing For Japan Only!?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:43 am

JAL123 a 747SR-46

From in reference to the deadliest single airplane crash in history:

The aircraft suffered an explosive decompression while climbing through 23,000 feet. The failure of the rear pressure bulkhead caused a portion of the vertical stabilizer to be blown away, rupturing all four main hydraulic fluid lines. Controlling the aircraft solely by engine thrust, the crew was attempting to return to Tokyo when the aircraft clipped one mountain ridge, flew across a valley, and impacted a second mountain approximately 400 feet from the summit. This accident remains the deadliest single-airplane accident in aviation history.

The 747SR is still a popular plane used mainly by several governments in the middle east for its small size and extra long range. I believe Qantas and South African may still have some in sked ops.


RE: Boeing For Japan Only!?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 3:07 am

SR? where did you get that? they are called 747-400D's

RE: Boeing For Japan Only!?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 5:00 am

The 747SR is the domestic version of I believe either the 100 or 200 model.

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