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Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sat Mar 24, 2001 11:37 pm

I was just wondering, becasue looking throught SIA's Celestar photos on A.net. They don't look very attractive or appealing. Almost like a thin cylinder with wings.

What do you think?
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sat Mar 24, 2001 11:45 pm

I think the A340 looks great in SQ c/s, but most aircraft does. The only thing that i don't like with the A343/A343 is that it seems like the design have gone back to that of the 707/DC8. But they look much better with the new big engines on the A345/A346.

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sat Mar 24, 2001 11:51 pm

One thin I'll say about the A340-300...It looks like a pencil....and it is out of proportion....the engines look too small for the size of the airplane. The A340-500/-600 look better.
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 1:00 am

The A340-200/300 would look and perform better if it had higher thrust P&W 2000 and RR RB211 series engines like the Russian IL-96M instead of those small 34,000lb thrust CFM56 hairdryers. I am glad Airbus has the larger high thrust RR Trent 500 series on the new A340-500/600.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 3:18 am

it is a little thin but i agree it could of done with the RR RB211 engines

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 5:40 am

I think the 340-200 looks nicer

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 6:17 am

HELLO

The A340 300 is very nice airliner but the the A330 300 is more beautiful.

For people who are wondering why the A340 has CFM engines and not RR RB211 or PW 2000, the CFM has a very lower fuel consummation than the others. It is environment friendly. That's why Airbus selected it even if it a little less powerful.

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King Of Pencils....

Sun Mar 25, 2001 6:42 am

The A340-600 has just rolled out...
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 6:45 am

Well, AIrbus took, what was available at the time. IAE first promoted its Superfan for the A340, but later stopped that project. CFM then proposed a more powerful version of its CFM56 engine, and the rest is history.

I definitely love the A340-300, but can't wait to see the A340-600 in SR colors at ZRH  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 8:31 am

The P&W 2000 and RR RB211 series engines have greater thrust ratings of 35,000 to 42,000lbs thrust than the CFM56. These engines would have provided the necessary takeoff power and cruising speed needed with a full load of passengers, cargo, & fuel.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 9:05 am

I think the A340-313X looks beautiful... in Cathay Pacific colors.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 9:20 am

In order to be able to use the same wing for both
the A330 and A340, Airbus could not put the much heavier B757 engines. When they stretched the A340 and put a wing root insert, that's when Airbus was able to put the more powerful and heavier Trent 500 engine on the A340. The A343 is already not cost competitive against the B772ER. Even if Airbus could put the PW2000 or the RB211 on the A343, it would have made the A343 even less competitive. Power and speed are not the only factors that make the A343 uncompetitive.
 
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RE: King Of Pencils....

Sun Mar 25, 2001 11:44 am

Until the A340-500 is rolled out, the A340-300 is THE best looking longhaul aircraft, in my humble opinion. It was the first new four-engined Western jetliner in 25 years and has great lines. It makes me think back to the sleek lines of the 707.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 11:53 am

The A340 is the best looking Long Haul airliner around . Its just beautifull and impressive . The A340 is my favorite plane along with the A330 . I particularly like the 300 variant of the A340 though.
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 1:01 pm

Is GE/Snecma working on getting more than 34,000lbs thrust out the CFM56-5C4 engine for the A340-300 Enhanced model?
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Sun Mar 25, 2001 6:48 pm

All of 340 look nice undoubtly Big grin
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 12:38 am

Can't wait to see when they roll out an A340-500 in SIA colors.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 12:57 am

Me To! However, unfortunately, Air Canada will be the first.  Sad Shame!
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 1:56 am

totally share the opionion, that the a-340 is the most beautiful aircraft around, can´t wait to see the 346 finally flying!!!


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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:00 am

Wouldn't it be a shocker if BA announces they are purchasing the RR Trent powered A340-600 instead of the GE90 777-300ER?
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:03 am

To me i think the 340's a slender, sexy lookin' babe!
Simply gorgeous!
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:28 am

Nothing against the 777, to me it looks like an overweight version of the 737.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:36 am

Nothing against the A340, but to me it just looks like a fat version of the 707! (with the same engines too, ie the modified 707 w/cfm-56s) LOL  Wink/being sarcastic

Just joking, but the A340s really looks great from most angle, but I hate that bump in the belly when you're looking up at it. Why did they have to have that bump? Is it because of the gear's location? Or some other reasons?

Can't wait until BA gets 773ers! It's going to look great.

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:51 am

Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

It's you!!! Only joking! Big grin

The A340 is a fine looking a/c. Maybe the CFM56 engines look a bit small with that large wingspan.

However you can't say same with the A340NG and the Trent 500s.


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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 3:14 am

Personally, I do not like the looks of the A340! I would like it if it was shorter and wider, Only had two huge Jets, and the gear would look better without the third leg by the wing! Personally I think The 777 looks better! The A340 is a nice plane but it needs some remakes!

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 3:32 am

The A340 is one of my favourite looking aircraft. IMHO the 777 looks too fat, reminds me of a guppy or A300 super transporter Big grin!
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 9:51 am

Those puny CFM56's really make the A340-300 look real nice to me. I'd say Virgin Atlantic's colours go the best with the plane.

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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 1:10 pm

Actually, there are proposals to retrofit a CFM International engine based on the TECH56 research program to the A340-300.

This means the engines will be rated at around 38,000 lb. thrust, but will have a engine diameter only slightly bigger than the CFM56's now flying on the A340-300.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 1:23 pm

The A340-300 looks great, but those large engines look too big for the 345. The 346 is too long and too skinny, like the 753. It's engines are too large for it too. The "hairdryers" look better on the A340.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 5:49 pm

The A340-300 is one of the best-looking airliners of all time, although I must admit that the A340-600 looks a bit too far stretched. If someone critisizes the A340 because of aesthetic reasons then the definitely out-of-proportion B777-300 (I call it the fat sausage, others the flying dick) must surely be seen as a ugly piece of hell in comparison (It´s not).
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Mon Mar 26, 2001 10:18 pm


TEDSKI,

You make it sound as if 343 didn't have necessary takeoff power to complete a full-range trip with a full load. This, as we know, is not true.

 
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Tedski

Mon Mar 26, 2001 10:39 pm

All new BA 777's are now powered by Trents. Just for your information.
 
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RE: Is It Me? Or Doesn't The A340-313X Look Nice?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:12 am

Thank you LUFC, I am fully aware that the last batch of 777-200ERs that BA ordered have the RR Trent 895 engine. JONI, I am glad that the A340-300 will be getting this upgraded version of the CFM56 engine with 38,000lbs to help with takeoff. Many people that I have talked to who flew on the A340-300, tell me that it is very slow climbing because of the low thrust the CFM56-5C4 engine had.

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