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Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 7:53 am

Are there any unpopular routes? (includes the routes with low load factors)
 
chepos
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 8:13 am

I dont know if this route can be listed as unpopular but I will have to mention San Juan-Los Angeles . TWA operates the route with a subsidy from the govt of Puerto Rico because of the few pax on this route . AA had try to launch this route a couple of years ago and they even dropped it be4 they even inagurated the flight .
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ishky15
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:37 am

A few come to mind:
PDX-Fukuoka Delta
IAH-Hermosillo Continental
DFW-MAN American
IAD-ZRH United
DTW-SEL Northwest
 
SESGDL
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:50 am

Delta dropped PDX to Fukuoka a long time ago!
 
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:58 am

Northwest from MSP-Rochester, MN and MSP-Duluth, MN and MSP-Fargo, ND are pretty unpopular, most of those flights have less than 20 people on the days i've seen them depart!
 
BostonBeau
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:09 am

There used to be LOTS of unpopular routes before deregulation. Airlines were often forced to maintain service to cities they could not make a profit from and were subsidized by the government to do so. Oftentimes the CAB would give an airline a "good" route in exchange for maintaining service on "bad" routes. For example, Northeast Airlines was given routes to Miami and Los Angeles but had to maintain service to numerous small communities in New England that couldn't even fill a DC-3 or FH-227 on a good day. American used to operate a series of puddle jumping flights through upstate New York from Boston, too.
 
ILOVEA340
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:11 am

Southwest from OAK to ISIP. who wasnts to stop 4 times just to get to bloody new england. (don't take that the wrong way)
 
portcolumbus
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:37 am

CMH-EWR is doing very poorly for HP.
 
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:54 am

The wost route is American Airlines Midway to Dallas fort Worth on a F-100!

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Tan Flyr
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 12:34 pm

Interesting question..Unpopular for whom? These days few carriers stay in a route that is unprofitable unless there is financial incentives from a local government or politcal considerations. But even those did not stop AA from dropping F-100 service from ORD to FSD?/Peoria/ and another city I don't remember about a year after they got an exemption on the slot rule at ORD back in the early 90's.

TWA used to have to operate a whole series of flights with various combinations of stops from IND/CVG/DAY/CMH/PIT to DCA/LGA/ and other points and with-in those midwest cities. Some were even operated with 707's and CV-990's. I'm sure the CAB made TW fly those "unpopular" routes for some plum route.


I don't think a route remains "unpopular" for too long these days at most carriers. WE( the collective group on here!) may feel that a route is unpopular or a carrier does not operate the route with the equipment we would assign to it.

 
imkeww
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 12:40 pm

IAD-ZRH did quite well with United, load-wise! I flew this route before it died, and it was jam-packed; I had also been told it was always like this.

Problem was, most of the '67 was filled with tourists like me. UA simply must have the high margins.

That's why United claims to "fly to more of the world's business centers than any other airline."

-imk
 
blink182
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 1:13 pm

As for routes like DTW-SEL and DFW-MAN, if they are so unpopular, how come there are flights between the two cities?  Smile
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us330
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 2:00 pm

Uhh, Blink, AA stopped DFW-Manchester a long time ago, and if they do operate it, it is seasonal. They do have year round ORD-MAN though.
 
Big777jet
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RE: Unpopular Routes?

Tue Mar 27, 2001 3:56 pm

How about ORD-Berlin, Germany American Airlines dropped route a few years ago? Were they have a low load pax?

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