Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 7:54 am

Dispite their exceptional service on board Hawaiian Airlines on long-haul flights, I think they should increase the comfort of the passengers by replacing their aging DC-10s with newer aircraft with new interiors for maximum comfort and to have a refreshing flight before they arrive at the paradise. I think they should replace their DC-10s with either A330 or either Boeing 767-400.
Air Tahiti Nui is currently operating A340. What do you think?

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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 8:05 am

The ex-American DC-10s have new, Hawaiian Air interiors. The ex-Continental DC-10s still have full Continental interiors but they still appear new.

Replacements for the DC-10s are being evaluated. From a press release reporting Hawaiian's 4th Quarter and Annual 2000 Financial Results:

Casey said Hawaiian is close to choosing a replacement aircraft for its widebody fleet of McDonnell Douglas DC-10s, which are used to operate long-range routes outside of Hawaii. "The successor to our DC-10s is clearly a twin-engine, widebody aircraft that will afford greater maintenance and fuel economy as well as range flexibility. Our hope is to complete this transition by 2004," he said.

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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 8:50 am

I don't think Hawaiian has any flights to Japan or other Far East destinations, but they should. I'm sure JAL and ANA don't want them to though.
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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 9:01 am

DC-10's gotta go--The planes are leased from AA who got rid of their own. time for 767's or A300's from AA....

PS Actually the ex ANA L-1011's they had in the mid 80's were the best....
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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 10:00 am

I think HA will become a customer for the 777-200ER configured similarly to the two-class 777-200ER's UA bought recently. My guess is that HA will do a long-term lease (around ten years) on 5-6 planes, probably leased from ILFC, GECAS or Boeing's new leasing company.  Smile

Remember, the HA D10's are configured with more seating than you normally see on the 767-400ER, so HA may desire the 772ER instead.
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Sun Apr 01, 2001 10:02 am

Why would Hawaiian go for the 777-200ER? The regular 777-200 has a range of 5,150 nautical miles. It can fly from San Francisco to Tokyo or HNL-ORD non-stop. Wouldn't the ER be a little too much aircraft for Hawaiian?
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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 10:12 am

I think the Hawaiian DC-10s are extremely comfortable, even though they have more seats in coach than American did. I look forward to flights on Hawaiian DC-10s.

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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 12:10 pm

Hawaiian did receive authority to operate a Kahului-Tokyo/Narita route, but service never started due to the recession in Japan as well as difficulty obtaining a slot at Narita. I don't know if Hawaiian still has the route authority or not.

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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Sun Apr 01, 2001 10:09 pm

Well, HA could buy regular 777-200's. Embarrassment

Given that HA flights tend to be quite full almost year-round, buying the smaller 767-400ER may not be such a good idea, unless HA accepts Boeing's 304-seat two-class configuration.
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RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Mon Apr 02, 2001 1:47 am

Rumors heard from the riding the jumpseat of a recent HA DC-9 flight has it that the replacement for the DC-10 will be the 763. They hope to implement this transition beginning in October. Once the 763's start turning a profit, the pilots want to possibly acquire a couple 772. These are just some rumors that Hawaiian's pilots are talking about.

RE: Hawaiian DC-10

Mon Apr 02, 2001 2:21 am

I thought that Hawaiian have two class configuration on their aircraft anyway, First and coach. So that should not be a problem

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