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British Midland--NYC

Wed May 12, 1999 4:01 am

With BM's proposed new route from LHR to New York, what large aircraft will they choose??


RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 12:20 am

A330s I guess. They are now receiving new Airbus narrow bodie jets into their fleets,A320s,A321s & A319s I think. It is only logical that they would now get Airbus widebodies for transatlantic service since they can be so quickly delivered & they would probablly get a really cheap price from Airbus. Not to mention the commonality issue

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RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 3:28 am

I agree with Lance, but I think they are not receiving A319's only A320's and A321's.
However, until the US and UK governments can formulate a new bilateral air services agreement allowing greater transatlantic access, BMA will be unable to launch service to New York.

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RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 3:33 am

How about if they lease some A-310s, before they get their A330 delivered??

I don;t somehow think they'd get their A330 loaded full...

Alexander Alexeyev
Scotland - Russia.

RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 3:57 am

Isnt BM a high qaulity high service airline? If they were theyd have no problem doing business here...i know id fly them....

RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 7:32 am

British Midland continued a long-running bid to enter the transatlantic market yesterday, with a special request to be allowed to start services between London Heathrow and New York.

The European short-haul carrier asked the US government to grant the airline a special exemption from the current restrictive Anglo-US air services agreement.

In a petition to the US Transportation Secretary Mr Rodney Slater, the airline argued that three US carriers were permitted to sell seats on the route, while only two British airlines can fly to New York out of Heathrow.

"It would be appropriate to add British Midland as a third carrier on the route, which is restricted to [ British Airways ] and Virgin Atlantic," the airline said.

Only two US carriers, American Airlines and [ United Airlines ] , are actually allowed to operate services on the route, while [ Continental Airlines ] can only sell seats under a code-sharing alliance with Virgin.

But British Midland said the granting of an exemption would signal "a bold and significant pro-competitive move" at a time when Britain and the US were trying to renegotiate the bilateral air services agreement to allow more carriers into Heathrow.

Negotiators are due to meet in London next week for an informal meeting designed to pave the way to formal talks resuming next month in Washington.

The thorniest issue in eight years of talks has remained access to Heathrow, the world's busiest international airport, and the most lucrative for transatlantic air traffic.

But Britain has refused to guarantee runway space for newcomers, and in turn has demanded that the US opens up its domestic market to foreign airlines.

Now, Sir Michael Bishop, chairman of British Midland, has said he believes a compromise is in the offing.

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RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 10:14 am

I would hope that they would be allowed to operate that route, but if they do then another American carrier should be allowed to operate into Heathrow.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower

RE: British Midland--NYC

Thu May 13, 1999 11:30 am

Perhaps BM could join in an alliance with Delta. Joining with them would allow Delta to sell seats on BM to LHR if they were not to become the third US carrier alloted to fly to Heathrow. BM, would be almost immediatly able to offer destinations all over the US through Delta apon becoming a member of the transaltantic club while actually flying just three or four routes themselves. A link-up between DAL & BM would be more beneficial to DAL than their current link-up with SwissAir & Austrian.


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