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Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 2:27 am

Hey all you other BUR lovers out there! Given that I haven't lived in BUR for almost 8 years, I am actually a little out of touch with things, despite the username.

In any case, with 320's/73's being so popular on transcon these days, will we ever see a non-stop to BUR from the NYC area? I know CO does SNA with a 73. JetBlue does ONT with a 320.

It would be so nice to avoid DFW, DEN, or SFO trying to get back home. Wouldn't there be enough studio-types desperate for such a flight that someone could make some coin off it?

As far as I can remember (i.e. post de-reg), STL was about as far as you could ever get non-stop out of BUR(?) back when TW used to do it.

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RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 7:19 am

I think it would be great if there could be transcon out of BUR, but I don't see it anytime soon, unless JetBlue wants to take a shot at it, it's too bad though I think BUR has a lot more potential then just short hops to LAS, SFO, PHX, OAK, SAC, and SJC. If they could finally get this new terminal put in to replace the one they have then maybe it would happen, but I unfortunitly don't see it anytime in the near future, but I hope that I'm wrong!
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RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 7:47 am

Given all of the political scabs that continue to plague that airport, IMHO the chances of ever seeing transcon service out of there are about as likely as seeing a one legged tap dancer.

RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 8:00 am

How about nonstop LHR-BUR service by British Airways on the Boeing B777-236ER? Will that happen soon?


RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 3:41 pm

A transcon from BUR..... well I've got SJC, SFO, and OAK so I'm not in need... and LAX really isn't even an hour away from BUR, (then again neither is OAK and SFO and SJC) and I think think that the best chances of getting a NYC area flight are with continental or jetblue. But considering continental has NO operations at all at BUR right now, I don't think they'd start it up simply to fly one daily. I could see jet blue using some Alaska facilities though. But anyway, don't look for it anytime soon. UA COULD add a flight with a 319, but I don't think anyone wants to use up a JFK slot. I believe UA would have flown their A319s out of SJC to JFK if they had the slots, but they had slots availible in to IAD, and there was enough demand for that route.
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RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 4:03 pm

I pretty much agree. For instance if the new terminal is built it will be the same amount of gates, therefore it would be unlikely new destinations would surface. It would be nice, but LAX isn't that bad. Let's look at why not, shall we...

The only airlines that operate from BUR and fly transcon from more than just a hub or two [HP] are....

WN wouldn't, AS, yeah, and it'll be a 747 flight, HP only flies transcon from PHX/LAS [or if you count CMH-LA, etc].

AA only has 2 MD80s to DFW, they'd need a 738 or 752 to get to JFK. They could do ORD with a M80 though, but I doubt it. UA is 722/733/5 at BUR, they'd need A319/20 to get back east [further than ORD]. With AA's take over of TW, and all of UA's fun I doubt either would start JFK, Bos, IAD, etc.

Also there isn't a market. SNA has hi-tech,etc biz around it, BUR really doesn't. All the $$$ people at WB, Disney, etc don't live in the valley [as in valley girl] or if they are big enough there are corporate jets. I'd rather fly through LA n/s to JFK, than BUR-DFW-JFK,etc. However if I was flying to an airport not served n/s from LA, than why not. Anyway, BUR is over the hill, it can be a pain, although not as much as LA, you're right. BUR is destined to be a regional...

Some BUR updates...
AS has changed schedules to 3 734s and 3 M80s. Thats sucks, plus its the 2/3 PDX flights are 734s, and since I normally go to PDX, I have even more 734 crap to avoid. Also HP is down to 2/6 flights A320, the rest 733. And, the UA 722 is gone, making BUR all the more BORING!!!!!
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RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 4:24 pm

Come to think of it...

You know what BUR needs in order to grow?

Besides a terminal thats not on top of the runway but stricter noise limitations like SNA. I know this would mean less variety - no more 722s and less MD80s, but it might be a good idea. I heard at SNA if you operate extemely quite planes, like MD90s, etc you get more slots, or something. BUR should do something like this possibly. Residents are really against BUR. This could be a possibilty, WN, AS, AA could fly 737NGs [as much as I dislike 737s, the NG is very quite and I praise it for its more positive environment effects], UA and HP could operate more Airbuses, it wouldn't be all bad. Oh, AA could start 717 service, I'm dreaming now...



RE: Will We Ever See Transcon BUR Service?

Sat Apr 07, 2001 11:40 pm

As WN fills in its route map, one can ponder potential new Southwest flights from Burbank...Nashville, Baltimore and Midway.

But these are all long shots, or years' off.

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RE: N960AS

Sun Apr 08, 2001 6:08 am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(catching breath)OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Okay enough of that, how dare Alaska fill some of there MD80 slots with B734's, if they were going to throw 737's in there they should at least have throw a 737-700 in, I appriciate you throwing the update in there N960AS!
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RE: Transcon BUR Service

Sun Apr 08, 2001 6:37 am

Adding restrictions to add slots, not too bad of an idea at all and I wouldn't mind driving down Victory Blvd and seeing more Airbusses and a MD90 come out of there. But all the same BUR won't be getting Transcon service, I don't even think getting a new terminal will help that. If your BUR and you got LAX about 20 miles to the south and with ONT to your east and the city your in doesn't have much of the componets to help you get that transcon service then you can pretty much kiss that good bye.
With Southwest adding new destinations on the east coast I guess transcon might not be totally out of the question, I mean Southwest does have service out of LAS to the east, but I don't see that happening either.
I personally believe BUR started to go down hill when they lost competion, when TWA, Continental, Delta, and USAir all hi-tailed it out of there and SWA took it over. The only "Real" competion I see at BUR is there PHX service because SWA and HP serve it, but other than that it's SWA & 737 dominated, a sad sight indeed, I still long for the days when I could drive thru BUR on my way to Ventura County and see Continetal MD80's, TWA with there MD80's, Delta 737's and USAir with there BAe146's and 737's. But those days are long gone and the last time I went through the San Fernando Valley all I saw were Southwest 737's, it was nice to see Alaska with an MD80 fly out of there though.
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RE: N960AS

Tue Apr 10, 2001 1:57 am

The UAL 72Q is not gone from BUR. It is flight #1148, scheduled to leave for DEN @ 8:35am, continuing on to Tampa. Jeff

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