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Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 1:06 pm

Can anyone tell me WHEN was the NEWEST B 747-400 of Cathay Pacific being delivered?

Also, do you guys think they will order more B 747-400s in the future? Or even the B 747-400LR?

This might have been discussed before but I would hope to hear more from you guys.  Smile

Hope to hear from you guys soon.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 1:25 pm

B-HUM, the next 747-400F is due in the middle of this month. After that, one is due in August. That will complete the current order of 747s that cathay has.

I highly doubt any more passenger 747s will be ordered by Cathay ever again.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 1:29 pm

CX flyboy:


What about passenger B 747-400? When was the last one being delivered?

Also, why do you think there wouldn't be anymore B 747-400s ordered by Cathay ever again? Well, I think they might order some B 747-400LRs to replace their oldest B 747-400s in the future.  Smile


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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 1:50 pm

B-HUJ was the last passenger 744 to be delivered to Cathay in May 1995.

The 747-400 is no longer very cheap to operate, compared to what is available on the market. Now that the A340-600 is out, I think Cathay will be concentrating on that aircraft, and eventually have fleet comonality on the A340s and 777s, and not have the 747 as a third aircraft group.

A Pacific Plotting Chart we have gives a bit of an insight into the difference between the A340-300 and the 744s in fuel burn. Obviously, the 747 is bigger, so some difference is expected. The chart shows circles drawn around some of our diversion airports and the approximate fuel needed to get there. For example, the 1500nm circle around Honolulu shows the 744 needs 47.5tonnes of fuel and the A340 needs 32.4tonnes of fuel. As you can see, there is quite a difference, and over a 15 hour flight, there is an appreciable difference in fuel burn (Read money burn). The new 747-400LRs are not going to be much more fuel efficient and I just can't see Cathay buying them at all.
 
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RE: Honolulu?

Sun Apr 08, 2001 3:51 pm

I heard last year that HNL was a hot rumour as a potential CX destination; I know they were after DEL for years, but is HNL still a target. In the latest list of targets, Bangalore and Riyadh were mentioned, but not HNL.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 3:58 pm

HNL has been tempoarily shelved, and the other places I mentionned elsewhere are now more of a priority.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 3:58 pm

yeh.....i dunno why...but i always wanted to see CX flying to HNL......

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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Sun Apr 08, 2001 5:34 pm

I doubt that airlines, including CX, would be ordering -400LRs to replace the standard -400s. The difference would be too small, and the passengers would hardly notice the difference.

CX_flyboy, but don't you think that if CX replaced their 744s with 346s, that would be thought of as a bit of a 'downgrade', since the 346s are in fact smaller aircraft? I think a large, major airline in the Asia-Pacific region can't possibly do without a flagship plane like either the 747 or 380, so I really hope CX will go for the 380!
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RE: Cathay Pacific's Newest B 747-400.

Mon Apr 09, 2001 1:49 am

I hope we get to fly the A380 too, but straight from the DFO's mouth is that 'we are not actively discussing it, although it is a consideration'.

We shall see.