englandair
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BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 12:02 am

As you probably know, BMI British Midland will recommence Transatlantic services this year, after a gap of 18 years.
This month SAS will lease BDs 1st A332 for one year.
BD will receive their 2 other A332s this & next month. They've also got a 4th A332 on order.
So by this time next year BD should have four A332s, but at the momment only 2 routed to operate them on.

So where will BD be off to next?
I know they've applied for the right to serve loads of US cities (from MAN), but which can you see them flying to next?

And will they necessarally expand in the US.....?
 
tristar4ever
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 12:37 am

The a332`s can basicly fly anywhere cause of their range. My guess is any other united hub,maybe denver or SFO. or perhaps a varig hub in south america. its still best for them to base the transatlantic routes around the big star alliance hubs. that way they are less likely to loose money on such routes. I hope they do well, it would be sad to see them go under.

do you like the new slogan, civil aviation? i think its really clever, and the new adds are also good.

Mike.
 
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 12:51 am

My two favourite ads are "is it haemarroids?" and " I saw him at Glastonbury and he really rocks".

Still haven't quite worked out the Des Lynham one yet, any clues?
 
englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 1:54 am

Thanks for your thoughts Mike.

'Civil Aviation' is the best slogan out there IMO.

I like the ads too, but I've no idea either about the Des Lynham one!


 
jfidler
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 2:03 am

Wasn't there some problem whereby British Midland wasn't being granted any slots into the U.S., because American carriers weren't being granted any slots into LHR? Or was that resolved?

Justin
 
englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 2:49 am

Hi Justin,

I think you mean a bugger of a rule called 'Bermuda II'.

The Bermuda II agrement currently means that only 2 UK and 2 US airlines may fly LHR-USA or USA-LHR.
Only Virgin Atlantic, British Airways, United Airlines and American Airlines are currently allowed to fly to the States from Heathrow.

BMI have recently complanied to...well I don't know who exactly, but BMI was refused the right to codeshare, from LHR, with United despite the fact that Continental currently codeshare with VS from Heathrow.

Bermuda II only applies to flights to the United States from London Heathrow, and no other routes.
Therefore, BMI are able to fly from Manchester International to the US.

Hope that clears it up!
Jamie.
 
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 3:25 am

i agree with Tristar4ever, but i highly doubt they´d fly to GRU very soon. concentrating on star hubs at the beginning is certainly a wise decision, and so i suggest YYZ, Air Canada´s main hub, instead of Varig at Sao Paulo.
well, this is just a pure guess, but i could imagine bmi serving SFO, as Tristar already mentioned, as well as JFK or EWR from MAN (and not swapping this flight to LHR if they are granted rights to fly to the US from LHR).
what about LAX, BOS, MIA?

rgds
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englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 3:44 am

I thought about MIA.
How much competition is there on the MAN-NYC routes?
 
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 5:27 am

Can we please have bmi british midland to BAH and DXB?

Please?
 
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 2:53 pm

MAN-JFK is currently served by BA and PIA , and MAN-EWR is served by CO.
I would think they may add SFO on a daily flight so both a/c would have to be utilised, or maybe JFK and MIA.
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 4:19 pm

Glad the very good bmi ad's have come up.

What is the a/c in the opening scrole? My guess is an A321, although the interior shots are definitely imply a widebody.

Can't wait for a chance to cross the pond with them.
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englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 5:04 pm

The a/c in the opening shot is a computer generated A330!
 
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 5:20 pm

To supprise you all the USA is not the end of the world for airlines to terminate at (although on my recent visit, "end of the world" is a bloody good description).

I have just heard that BMI will be looking at going into HKG, which for those of you that don't know, is in the other direction.

 Acting devilish

 
englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 6:14 pm

LOL- Do I detect some slight anti-USA feelings there?!
But you're quite right, the US isn't necessarily the only way they'll go.
BMI have the right to fly from Heathrow to tens and tens of destinations in Asia, South America* & Australia* (I don't know about Africa).

*Can't remember if they've got the routes already or have applied for them.

I do think however that they'll serve afew US destinations from MAN before they begin any other longhaul non-US destinations.

But given the fact that they've got/applied for the right to fly to places such as Venezuela, Argentina and Panama, they're certainly keeping their options open!!! (despite the fact that they'll probably never fly most of the routes)
 
englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Mon Apr 09, 2001 6:18 pm

Also, I think that it would be best to avoid routes that VS fly. Otherwise, BD could end up having to compete with at least 3 other carriers on a route.
 
englandair
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RE: BMI In A Years Time...?

Tue Apr 10, 2001 6:25 am

Actually, I can remember reading about bmi going to code share with ANA LHR to Tokyo(?).

How is the late arrival of the a/c affecting SK, (who were going to lease the 1st A332)?

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