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"No Way BA/AA"

Sun Apr 15, 2001 3:03 pm

Hello everyone. Today I flew home from Washington to LA but I saw an interesting aircraft at Dulles. The Virgin Atlantic 744 had a sticker that said, "No Way BA/AA." I suppose this was talking about the alliance between BA and AA (which to the best of my knowledge is not going well). Why does Virgin have this on its plane? How long have they been campaigning against it?

Also, what right do they have to say this (although they can do whatever they want with their own planes), to say no to this alliance, (between now the two largest airlines on each side of the Atlantic), when they themselves have an alliance with Continental?

Any info about this whole campaign, I'd be very interested to hear. Thanks.

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RE: "No Way BA/AA"

Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:42 pm

It's been on the side of VS a/c for about 4 years now
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RE: "No Way BA/AA"

Sun Apr 15, 2001 6:54 pm

The B744 you saw was the only remaining old livery B744 in the fleet (G-VTOP, Vaginia Plane).
The 'NO WAY BA/AA' titles have not been incorporated into the new livery and so only remain now on a few of the old livery planes.
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RE: "No Way BA/AA"

Sun Apr 15, 2001 6:58 pm

China Girl (G-VSEA) still has it...I thought that it would have been taken off by now...

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RE: "No Way BA/AA"

Sun Apr 15, 2001 10:34 pm

You answered your own question is BECAUSE AA and BA are so large that a small airline like VS is concerned. AA and BA already carry the greatest share of the traffic between the US and the UK, probably more than the remaining airlines combined (anyone got statistics?)
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RE: "No Way BA/AA"

Mon Apr 16, 2001 1:51 am

The reply to this provocation can now be found on many a BA plane:
"F*ck Virgin"

Just kidding....

Virgin was lobbying rather hard to prevent BA and AA from codesharing out of Heathrow, which would have given this alliance a MAJOR advantage over any other airline, and could have seriously damaged Virgin Atlantic. Of course, they would think otherwise if they had been offered more slots in return for the alliance to be permitted.

So, will they now change to "No Way, LH/BD/AC/UA/RG/SK" - who now together have more than 25% of slots in Heathrow and have been rumoured to build Heathrow into a hub for Star? Methinks not. Branson is only popular as long as he bullies BA....


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Mon Apr 16, 2001 3:21 am

Ikarus, you are flying too close to the sun!!!

Branson only popular as long as he bullieds BA...?

Branson and the Virgin companies are popular because they are innovative and, whilst they have not always succeeded in every venture, they are seen as being more in tune with the average guy than big corporations and, in airline terms, BA in particular.

As for bullying BA... I suppose David's slaying of Goliath was bullying in your dictionary.
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Mon Apr 16, 2001 4:14 am

David and Goliath? Never heard of 'em...

Anyway: I truely like VS, and would fly them rather than BA anytime - I just tend to get fed up at Branson... The dirty tricks campaign has been finsihed and paid for long ago, and yet there is still propaganda depicting BA as the evil archenemy and bad guy of the people...

Don't take my post too seriously - it wasn't exactly written in a very serious tone, either



PS Flying too close to the sun.... LOL .... NOW I get it!  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud