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South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 12:51 am

I am not sure whether this has been posted or not, but whilst checking out a few sites I came across the following information:

AIR CALIN

New Caledonia based Air Calin has ordered 2 A330s and a single A320. Reported cost is US$200 million, although generous breaks have been offered by the French government. Delivery is set down for 2002. The A320 will replace the 737-300 currently in service.

POLYNESIAN AIRLINES

PH is considering adding a 767 (series unknown) to compliment the 737-800 which was currently placed into service. This is following comments made by the airline's chairman (who is also the Samoan Prime Minister) Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi.

AIR NAURU

ON is considering purchasing a 737-800, as their single 737-400 has now reached maximum utilisations (ON also operates for Norfolk Jet from Sydney and Brisbane to Norfolk Island).

AIR KIRIBATI

Air Kiribati is considering the purchase of an ATR-72, which would open up a Tarawa-Tuvalu-Fiji route. Air Fiji currently operates from Suva-Funafuti and Air Nauru operates Tarawa-Nadi.

What is interesting to note here is that Airbus is finally making inroads (albeit small) in the South Pacific region, having been without orders since Air Niugini ordered A310s and Ansett ordered A320s.

Cheers

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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 6:03 am

actually Qantas placed huge order with AI for the first time. A330s and A380s.
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 8:24 am

AirCalin currently operate an A310-300 and lets face it, it is hardly surprising that they have ordered from Airbus when New Caledonia is a French protectorate. Although 2 A330's was a bit of a surprise. As for the 320 they will probably have to get someone new to do their maintenance as QF did the work on the 737 and would lease them a QF 737 while theirs was laid up.
RL
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 9:00 am

I did not know there WAS a Polynesian Airlines!

(Bummas! Me Akamai O wot?!  Wink/being sarcastic )

LOL, just a little Pidgin (I know a little bit!)

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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 9:05 am

Of course there is a Polynesian Airlines....."The airline of Samoa!!"

Tofa..
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 9:14 am

No yeah? I never knew Samoa Airlines! Thanks brah!

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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 9:27 am

SB could have their A320 maintained by a number of A320 operators in the Asia Pacific region.

This would include
- Ansett
- ANA
- Silk Air
- DragonAir
- A number of mainland Chinese airlines

Given distances, you would guess AN would get the gig provided SB's A320s are powered by CFMs.
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 10:28 am

I heard last year that SB was considering an A330 series unknown. PH is getting another 738 in November this year. PH leased a 763 in the mid 1990's but the lease was short lived it would look good in their current livery though. Scott.
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 11:27 am

Qantas used to operate A300's.
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 11:45 am

Just on Jupiter2's comment that New Caledonia is a French protectorate: its actually not a protectorate - it is an integral part of France, as are all of the French Pacific Territories. To point this out is the standard French response to claims for independence: "Why would they want to be independent? They are not colonies but part of one country." that's the theory at least.

It would be an interesting decision for Polynesian to add a 767 again. The last expansion in the 1990s (with two 737s and a 767) produced debts that not only equalled the countries fx reserves but came close to its annual GDP.
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 12:18 pm

hey Anziff, I bet that if a new cadelonians wen't to france the wine drinkers would not think of them as there countrymen. One country my ass!
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Wed Apr 18, 2001 12:22 pm

Anzff, fair enough comment on French "off shore" territories, it was just a general comment to highlight the French influence in the region, in particular on AirCalin and their choice of the 330.
As for the former use of 767's by Polynesian, it appeared at the time that it was just a matter of one up manship. All the Pacific Island nations want their own airline, whether or not they can afford one or can even justify a small airline, Polynesian at the time seemed to be determined to be the biggest island airline and as you pointed out nearly bankrupted the country. They were trying to compete with the big boys and if memory serves me correct the 767's they used, initially from Air Canada and then the former Kuwait machine were just too expensive for them.
They are currently much leaner and have appear to have a good management team in place, plus they have a lot of work with QF, all PH flights to/from Australia are code shares with QF as well as actually operating QF's flights to Tahiti.
However if the Pacific Island nations could put aside their pride and formed a joint carrier, perhaps similar to Air Afique but run better, they could develop a good sized airline and provided each country with a viable service, but its not going to happen in my life time !!!
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RE: Boeing In Pdx

Thu Apr 19, 2001 11:33 am

Such an eloquent statement.
But New Caledonia is as much a part of France as Hawaii is a part of the USA. The question of whether it should be is slightly different: One is a statement of fact, the other is an opinion.
 
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RE: Boeing In Pdx

Thu Apr 19, 2001 10:44 pm

New caledonie to France is not similar to Hawaïi is to the US. It is a TOM (or overseas territory, and not a DOM or overseas department). DOM means that the region is just like any other regions in the French metropole though there are laws that have to be tagged applicable to DOM (VAT is not to be found in DOM such as Guyane Française for example). Tahiti and NC are even more autonome. Are they colonies then ? Well, that depends who you talk to.
Hawaii is a state just like any other state in the US continental.
 
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RE: South Pacific Orders And Rumours

Thu Apr 19, 2001 11:25 pm

Sounds like a US-Puerto Rico comparison would be a better comparision.
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