hkgspotter1
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KA Regional Jets?

Wed Apr 18, 2001 2:07 pm

Does anyone have a link to this news. I heard about it at Justplanes but I want to see something thats a little more confirmed.

For example if they get them, when.

It would be very nice to see the CRJ or EMB flying in and out of CLK. Shame they will be in KA's (no) colour scheme.
 
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Wed Apr 18, 2001 2:45 pm

To Khgspotter1:
I think this is Dragon Air planning now, I didn't heard anything inside the company. It's would be very interesting to see CRJ or EMB with Dragon Air Color in Hong Kong and hopefully won't make us going to have a heavy work.

Anyway, if I get any news on this. I will tell you!!!

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hkgspotter1
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Wed Apr 18, 2001 7:05 pm

The first regional Jet service in Hong Kong would be nice.
 
a380
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Wed Apr 18, 2001 11:17 pm

Which aircraft will they buy?
My heart screams "Bombardier".
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Thu Apr 19, 2001 9:20 am

I like both but the EMB looks much better.
 
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Thu Apr 19, 2001 5:54 pm

Hey I just want to raise a point; but isn't operating to and from hong kong quites expensive, considering that landing fees are some of the most expensive in the world.
Would it be profitable to fly regionals in and out of Hong Kong?
I had thought of this before but I thought it would be too expensive. Can someone clear this up?
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Thu Apr 19, 2001 8:56 pm

Yes DragoN Airs livery can be so beautiful i dont understand why they have opted for his dull look, I think ill design one for them with Air Orange Smile

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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 2:21 am

HKGSpotter1,

The CRJ looks much better than the EMbraer, which looks too toothpick-like!
 
Red Panda
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 2:49 am

The profit margin for regional flights are always less than that of international flights. However, I still think there will be a need for regional flights at HKG. Hopefully KA (or other airlines) will go for Bombardier. They make really good regional jets. ( 50 or 70seats). If I had money, I am sure I would buy Bombardier's shares.

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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 3:00 am

Actually, why doesn't Cathay operate some smaller planes too. Isn't it a bit uneconomical for them to operate 330s (their smallest a/c) on some of their routes with low load factors?
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 3:18 am

I think the avg. load factor is pretty good for CX. It should be around 70%. The load factor is posted on CX's official website and are updated monthly.
Also, CX probably wanna reserve some extra seats for its customers who want seats immediately.

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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 3:31 am

We have quite a high cost structure and flying smaller aircraft around just isn't profitable. I would love for Cathay to do it, but it doesn't look likely. Not at the moment anyway.
 
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 3:37 am

CX may consider setting up a subsidiary
like SQ - SilkAir
 
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RE: KA Regional Jets?

Fri Apr 20, 2001 6:13 am

Yeah, CX should do that a long time ago. In fact, Cathay's aircrafts are too big for regional service if the SE Asian regions do not have a good load factor of aircrafts. In SE Asia, it does not like N. America, whereas driving, long distance bus or trains are able to replace air service. For example, if someone took a cruise ship from HKG to SIN, it would take a long time and very costly. This make Asian airlines big and comes with a high fare.

IF CX sets up a regional airline, it would have direct competition with DragonAir then.

In my opinion, some routes like HKG -- Guangzhou should be flew by regional jets like CRJ rather than a 767. The load factor of the 767 is low and the loading/unloading time is too long for business travellers. Everybody just shift to high speed train instead.

Also, regional jets do not reruire jetways, they only have to put some place around the terminal and put several regional jets at the same time. Then, the CRJ has their own ladder for passengers to get in and out. This would offer an express service for all passengers from HKG.

I would love to see Bombardier gets the contract and I hope A380 would be able to take pictures when they are in production.  Smile