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What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 4:39 am

Take a look at these pictures. What's going on? I didn't think they took the inside completely out to maintain them!

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lindy field
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 4:47 am

The photos of the interior are the first photos of British Airways' new 4th class seating arrangement, popular among students and working families.
 
CPDC10-30
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 4:53 am

Looks like a "D" check to me.
 
exPratt
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 4:56 am

The airplane was undergoing a C-, or most likely, a D-check since it was being done at Cardiff.
 
Red Panda
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:15 am

yah, looks like a D-check.


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Teej13
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:17 am

What's a D-check?
 
Delta777-XXX
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:41 am

Yeah, I'm with Teej13 on this one... what is a D or C check?
 
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:44 am

Definitely a D check at Cardiff.

Basically a thorough strip down and rebuild.

Remember needing my last Eastern L1011. In 1988, when the FAA had their claws into Eastern, I was given a ramp tour at Miami and dropped into Eastern's Maintenance base.

There was what looked like an L1011 skeleton. The fuselage had traces of the reg, which was my last one, but the airframe was almost a shell.

I asked the FAA guys what was going on. "We've just invented the E check" was the reply!

 
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:45 am

4th class?
 
Delta777-XXX
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:49 am

EGGD, It was a joke! lol

So what is the difference between a C, D, & E check?



 
cba
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:44 am

I highly doubt that any 744 is old enough for a D Check.
 
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Whatever They Are Doing....

Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:47 am

I hope it includes removing their atrocious, un British recent liveries! Yuck!
 
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RE: Whatever They Are Doing....

Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:50 am

Cba, Air Canada is sending the 744s to New Zealand for their D-checks.
 
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RE: Whatever They Are Doing....

Sat Apr 21, 2001 7:27 am

Beat me if I'm wrong but to my knowledge a D-Check is due after 6 years in service and a C-Check ... well, dunno .. after 2 years?
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RE: Whatever They Are Doing....

Sat Apr 21, 2001 7:40 am

I think they are already here CPDC10-30!!

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philb
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 7:49 am

Why cba?

As BA's first 747-400 is just two months under 12 years old, I would expect it to have in excess of 35,000 hours racked up by now.
 
Teej13
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 8:10 am

I'm still a little unsure at to why a d check is done, and what exactly it is.. why does it need to be taken apart?
 
philb
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 8:14 am

Every so often an aircraft needs taking apart to look for corrosion, cracking, to replace worn out parts, revamp the avionics, cabin decor and to fully repaint.

Its called good practice engineering as aircraft are made of materials that wear out!!
 
cba
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 9:19 am

I didn't realize that a D check was needed so soon. Are these checks due after a certain amount of cycles or years? I'd guess cycles, because I saw an add for a 25 year old DC-10-30 that was up for a D check soon.
 
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 12:53 pm

Based on my cousin told me about C and D check overhaul procedures at TWA, the pictures are NOT that of a D check overhaul.

For one thing, it appeared they didn't completely remove all of the interior fittings in the passenger seating area; a D check overhaul would involve removing the overhead bins and all the interior walls on the plane.

However, engines are frequently removed from the plane on a C check overhaul. I remember in 1982 when I saw a TWA L1011 undergoing C-check overhaul all three RB.211-22B engines were removed from the plane.
 
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 2:22 pm

Ya it looks like a d check
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:21 pm

Ray,

As we don't know where in the cycle of the check these photos were taken, you cannot surmise it is not a D check by what is and is not in the photos.

I can surmise it is because BA's 747-400 have been going through Cardiff for D checks and most C checks are still carried out at LHR.

cba,

Checks are carried out based on both cycles and age. If an aircraft is in regular use, cycles will be the dominant factor.

If an aircraft spends a long time sitting on the ground between ownerships and is not stored in dry conditions then age will be taken into account.

Again, if an aircraft has been the subject of many leases and has been used by different airlines, serviced by different agencies and generally used very hard, the C and D check cycle might be accelerated for that period of its life.
 
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:28 pm

PhilB,

Actually, the more I think about it the more I think these planes are probably undergoing a D check overhaul. Embarrassment

I note the following: 1) the scaffolding surrounding the 747-400's is something you don't normally see on C checks and 2) they completely stripped the cockpit of all interior fittings including the instrument panel, something that's not common on C checks.
 
737doctor
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sun Apr 22, 2001 3:19 am

FYI, there are such things as 1/4-D's and 1/2-D's...in which the a/c is not as stripped down as if it were a full D-check.
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RE: What Are They Doing To These BA Jets?

Sun Apr 22, 2001 4:31 am

Maybe they're still building them...

Jas

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