svenvdm
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Cockpit Headrests

Tue Apr 24, 2001 8:33 pm

Hi everybody,

I was wondering why some airlines have cockpit headrests installed and others don't. Take for example the 747-400. Here are two shots without headrests (JAL & KLM):


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Photo © Miguel Snoep



And here's a shot with headrests:


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Photo © Craig Murray



The same goes for classic 747's. No headrests on this Corsair 747-300:


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Photo © Tommy Mogren / Viking Slides



Whereas this LH 747-200 does feature them:


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Photo © Vasco Garcia




Do some airlines want to prevent their pilots from falling asleep? Or is there a better explanation?

Sven

 
Bryston
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Tue Apr 24, 2001 10:32 pm

I don't know for headrests, but why does pilot seats are allways covered with a sheepskin ??? Does it is better than, lets says, leather? Does it is just for traditionnal reasons?? Couldn't they get some seats covered with new synthetic material, non flammable, which breathes, which doesn't keep to much warm, that keeps dry, etc....

Bryston
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Tg 747-300
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Wed Apr 25, 2001 2:14 am

I don't know about the headrests (but it was a very interesting question) but I think pilots find the sheepskin very comfy. It is soft, warm etc..

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svenvdm
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Thu Apr 26, 2001 11:00 pm

I'm sure that somebody must know the answer!
 
calpilot
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Fri Apr 27, 2001 12:41 am

I'm sorry, the answer is as simple as costs. It's a option just like on a car. Do you want to pay for it or not?
 
CX Flyboy
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Fri Apr 27, 2001 3:28 am

We have not had headrests on our 744s for years, but in the past few months, they have been installed on both control seats. They were excluded originally for cost reasons, but brought back for safety reasons. (I understand that cars have to have them by law.). The two jumpseats do not have them yet, unless you are on a freighter, or B-HOW.

They are nice, as I can lean my head against it on those long dark nights across the Pacific.
 
svenvdm
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Fri Apr 27, 2001 5:56 am

Cost? Really? That's interesting considering how much expensive equipment is installed on such a plane. One wouldn't think that two simple pieces of foamy material will bust an airline's budget.
Afterall, if I were the pilot on a 12-hour flight or even on a 6-hour flight I'd very much like a headrest. Not to fall asleep but simply to support my head...

Sven
 
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DL_Mech
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RE: Cockpit Headrests

Fri Apr 27, 2001 11:13 am

Cockpit seats are manufactured by different manufacturers for the same aircraft type. Delta's 757's and 762's share the same seats while our 763's and ER's have the same seats. Our Gulf Air planes had another type altogether........
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
Buff
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RE: Cockpit Head Restraints

Fri Apr 27, 2001 1:16 pm

What is being referred to as "headrests" should more appropriately be referred to as head "restraints".

The big problem is that owners think of the device as a "rest"; users realize the device as a "restraint".

That's all I can say about that.

Best Regards,

Buff

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