dellatorre
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Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 12:45 pm

Now RG has a total of 13 flights a week into LAX.
RG 8836 - GIG-GRU-LAX-NRT/ MD-11 4xweek
RG 8838 - GIG-GRU-LAX-NGO/ MD-11 3xweek
RG 8840 - GIG-GRU-LAX/ 767-300ER 6xweek

RG Totally dominates this market. Since UA couldn´t get the approval for this route RG decided to expand even more.
Also the new 777s are coming in the end of December for those routes. Japan and West USA is very profitable for RG. JAl is not even close to RG records.... They really had to push up to JFK since there they would have a chance.....
 
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 1:32 pm


Hello,

Great news! Love to see those Varig planes over L.A. skies. I have a question for you. why does Varig serve Nagoya? What is the nature of the flight? Is there a reason for Brazil-Nagoya service, or is it more of a LAX-Nagoya oriented route. I believe that Delta is the only other carrier that flies to Nagoya from L.A. JAL and ANA both fly to Tokyo and Osaka.

Best regards,
A. Diaz
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B747-437B
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 1:41 pm

Ok, this must be an example of fuzzy math.

How on earth does 13x weekly translate into 3x daily?
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ryu2
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 3:31 pm

JAL also serves LAX-NGO with MD-11. There are many Japanese citizens living in Brazil, so there is a lot of demand for flights between the two countries.
 
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 5:55 pm

Varig Brasil flies a daily MD-11 to LAX that continues to NRT or NGO. They also fly a 763 that turns around in LAX. The 763 does not operate on Mondays. That makes 13 flights a week. Hopefully the RG 777s will fly via LAX to Japan at the end of the year!!! They are not in the schedule yet. The777Man
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 10:45 pm

I think people forget that Sao Paolo has a very large ex-patriate Japanese community--something like over 600,000 people. That explains why both RG and JL fly between Japan and Sao Paolo frequently.

Now that SFO has the much-expanded International Terminal, don't be surprised in a few years that both JL and RG will start to route some of their Japan-Brazil flights through SFO; RG will use the G Concourse gates (since RG is a Star Alliance member) and JL will use the A Concourse gates. People sometimes forget there is a Brazilian ex-patriate community of nearly 80,000 people in the San Francisco Bay Area, and they may appreciate the ability to fly to GIG/GRU non-stop.
 
planenutz
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Wed Apr 25, 2001 11:52 pm

RayChuang is right. The largest population of Japanese outside of Japan lives in Sao Paulo. A majority of these Japanese (mostly Brazilian citizens) are from the Nagoya area.

When I was in Nagoya about five years ago, I can remember seeing a lot of Brazilian restaurants and bars with cames like "Copacabana", "Leblon", "Cafe Brasil", etc.

I'd like to know why Korean Air flies to GRU. I'm not aware of a large Korean expat population there.



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dellatorre
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Thu Apr 26, 2001 1:25 am

In fact on Wednesdays and Saturdays RG operates three flights. Sao Paulo also has a good number of Koreans citizens.
 
Neo
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Thu Apr 26, 2001 1:45 am

Dellatorre is right,

on Wednesday and Saturday RG operates:

GIG-GRU-LAX-NRT
GIG-GRU-LAX-NGO and
GIG-GRU-LAX

I guess that is not fuzzy math!!

Yeah the population of Korean is growing tremendously, here in Brazil. I don't remember seeing so many Koreans around like we see today.

And remember that Vasp used to fly this route also.

Best Regards

Neo
 
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Thu Apr 26, 2001 2:12 am

True, but the GIG-GRU-LAX-NGO leaves just after midnght and the GIG-GRU-LAx-NRT leaves 23 hrs later. From LAX to GRU-GIG there are usually two flights except on Mondays, never three. The777Man
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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Thu Apr 26, 2001 4:13 am

Think of Sao Paulo as a kind of 3rd world NYC. There are lots of different nationalities around here. The most important are Italians, Spaniards, Portughese, Japanese and Palestines.

Another example? When MEA restarted operations after the civil war their first long haul was to Sao Paulo.
 
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Rafabozzolla

Fri Apr 27, 2001 4:03 am

I didn't know that about MEA.

Didn't Iraqi Airways also fly to either GIG or GRU at one point? I think by way of Casablanca.

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RE: Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop

Fri Apr 27, 2001 5:22 am

I did not realize that the 763 had the range to fly LAX-Sao Paolo; are their capacity/load restriction on that flight?

Also, I had heard that UA did not get the traffic rights for LAX-Brazil service; does any US airline have such rights at the present time, or does Varig have a monopoly? I remember that Braniff flew their DC-8-62s from LAX to Lima and Santiago, and I think one or two flights weekly continued on to Brazil; being that first Eastern, then American "took over" such rights, could AA fly the route from LAX to Brazil?