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Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 3:46 am

Hey!

Does anyone know whether or not, are there ANY of British Airways's B 747-200s being painted in BA's new livery?

As you may know, BA's B 747-200s are generating money for BA. Do you guys think they will be replacing them anytime soon? If yes, when?

Hope they will not be leaving anytime soon.

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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 3:49 am

Yes

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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 3:51 am

When?
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 3:55 am

BA will not retire the 747-200 for 250 years yet, when the A318-5000 enters service!
Naw, probably another 5 years until they get rid of them
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 4:26 am

Good to hear that.
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 5:39 am

BA are actually replacing their 742s as we speak. Two have left the fleet this month and are being converted to freighters in HKG(at least one is).They intend to have them out of the fleet by the end of 2002.
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 5:43 am

Good to hear that.
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 7:58 am

BA are starting to retire their 747-236's now, I think that some are being converted into 747F's, with the last a/c leaving the fleet I think in early 2002.
Several of the 747-236's have been painted in the new BA livery, but I am not sure which reg's.
The last of the 747-136 fleet was retired last year.
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 8:40 am

Off the topic, why do you Brits say "BA are"? Isn't British Airways ONE company, and therefore, shouldn't you say "BA IS"? I tend to see this in all the posts by British people, where they refer to a company or an entity in the plural. Why is this?
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 9:32 am

Its correct G-BDXP is in the hanger at HAECO in Hong Kong.
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 9:42 am

One of the BA 747-200 is in New Colour. It also have a "DreamFlight" titles on the fuselage.
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 2:17 pm

Hepkat,

Because it is correct. You also say "they" (the plural) rather than "it". A company is normally plural, consisting of many people. .

e.g "they will replace the B747" rather than "it will replace"
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 3:18 pm

This is VERY different from what we Americans say, and what I've heard in other English speaking countries. A company is ONE entity, how can it therefore be referred to in the plural form? If you refer to the PEOPLE of a company, then I can see where you would use a plural verb, but a company is one thing, hence my using "a" for the article. Therefore, I think it is correct to say "BA is", just as you would say "IBM was", but "the employees of IBM were".

Sorry to stray off the topic guys, but I was very curious about it.
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 7:39 pm

That's what puzzles me about US English. For example, if the Chicago Bulls win a game the headlines are 'Chicago Wins'. Why is that - I thought they were a team, and therefore should be a plural in a grammatical sense. It should therefore be 'Chicago Win' if you want to use the English language correctly.


Back to the question - BA are definitely phasing out their 742's by end 2002. I have seen 2 742's in 'World Tails' livery - I believe they still fly the 742's to Miami and Boston (amongst other destinations).

Interestingly, some of the 744's and 777's are still in the old livery
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 8:20 pm

Speaking of phasing out 747 classics it looks like KLM is not to far behind. 2 of their a/c were just stripped down of their blue and white paint sceme and sold to another airline. I didn't catch the reg. numbers. KLM has also confirmed that they will phase out the rest of them within the next 3-4 years. All the leased a/c will be returned and the others will be sent to the beautiful Mojave desert where they can join their friends and retire in the warm desert sun.

And with what a/c will KLM replace the old 747 classics with? 747-400's!!!!! This is completely contradictory to KL's plans to reduce capacity and increase frequencies with smaller a/c.

It also appears that some of Boeings unannounced 747-400 orders belonged to KL but KL insisted that they remain secret. Perhaps to see what kind of deal they could reach on a possible A380 order???

Anyway it looks like the 747 classics are starting to fade quickly. Of course NW will probably still be flying them long after any of us are still around. God only knows how they make any money competing with newer a/c.

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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 9:16 pm

I know almost all of the B767s are still in their old livery. I don't think they're getting rid of them anytime soon, though. Which aircraft do you guys think BA will replace their 742s with?
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 9:50 pm

GE,

B742's are being replacd by B777's.

Conversely to what you have said, most BA B767's are actually now wearing the colours of the British Union flag, or Utopia images.

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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 10:30 pm

I think that BA is potentially eyeing a possible 20-25 plane buy of the 777-300ER to completely replace their departing 747 Classic fleet.

Remember, for BA engine commonality is NOT an issue, given that BA does fly 20 777-200's powered by GE90 engines. This means BA already has the trained mechanics that can work on the GE90-115B engines the 773ER will use.
 
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Fri May 04, 2001 10:59 pm

Actually, interestingly it appears that BA may be trying to acquire 777-300s with RR engines - this is because they are reportedly trying to acquire lighter models of the 777-300 which would mean they could use the Trents.
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RE: Will British Airways Retire Its B 747-200s?

Sat May 05, 2001 4:27 am

BA only have 5 more 772s on order. They still have 13 742s to replace so either theyre going to make another order very soon or theyre going to lease 772s in to make uo for the lost capacity. What do you lot think?