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Rizzibird
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Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Thu May 10, 2001 8:48 pm

Yesterday I read in the newspaper that my local airport Paderborn-Lippstadt will be used for UEFA cup finals charter flights. They mentioned 15 extra planes to bring 2500 fans of the Spanish team Alaves to the final in Dortmund on Wednesday, 16th. Does anyone know what time those flight will come to PAD and what carriers will operate them? Will those planes stay there the entire day or do they just drop of the fans, leave and come back later to pick up the fans again? The article did not mention any flights for the Liverpool fans, so I guess they will use another airport, Dortmund or Münster I suppose. Anyone knows for sure? I'll try to be at the airport, unless the flights come in to early (I have my final test at school that morning). Thanks for any help.

Rizzibird
 
gkirk
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Thu May 10, 2001 9:12 pm

I know that Corsair 737s and 747s will be used to carry some Liverpool fans from Manchester airport. I would guess the rest will fly from LIV on MON,AMM,BY etc a/c.
 
Rizzibird
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RE: GKirk

Thu May 10, 2001 9:30 pm

Do you know where those flights will go to? Thanks for any info!

Rizzibird
 
TR
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Thu May 10, 2001 9:34 pm

When the UEFA Cup Final (Arsenal - Galatasaray) was in Copenhagen last year some of the planes actually shuttled and flew more than one trip between Copenhagen and London. Some of the UK and most of the Turkish aircraft came in and stayed while others transferred empty to other airports due to shortage of stands for all the aircraft at CPH. E.g. 3 Air Atlanta Icelandic 747s rested in Billund (BLL) for some hours before returning to CPH.

Cheers
 
gkirk
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RE: GKirk

Thu May 10, 2001 9:59 pm

There will also be a Sterling 738 operating as well.
What airport around Dortmund can handle a 747?? I would expect the airport to be Dortmund for the 737's but I dont know about the 747 and other large /c.
 
airsicknessbag
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Thu May 10, 2001 11:10 pm

737-800 is the largest a/c DTM can handle.

I believe Cathay brought a 747-400 to FMO or PAD once, I might be mistaken, though.
The nearest a/p surely being able to receive 747s is DUS.

Daniel from Dortmund  Smile
 
gkirk
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Thu May 10, 2001 11:53 pm

Well I guess anything above the 738 will go to DUS and the rest to Dortmund then
 
airsicknessbag
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 11, 2001 12:00 am

>>Well I guess anything above the 738 will go to DUS and the rest to Dortmund then
FMO is much closer.

>>I have my final test at school that morning
Your Abi? Good luck, then!

Daniel Smile
 
gkirk
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 11, 2001 12:05 am

For the Spanish fans, expect flights by the usual Spanish charters and maybe also some French one's also.
 
sas767
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 11, 2001 12:25 am

Hi TR

When the UEFA Cup Final (Arsenal - Galatasaray) was in Copenhagen last year some of the planes actually shuttled and flew more than one trip between Copenhagen and London. Some of the UK and most of the Turkish aircraft came in and stayed while others transferred empty to other airports due to shortage of stands for all the aircraft at CPH. E.g. 3 Air Atlanta Icelandic 747s rested in Billund (BLL) for some hours before returning to CPH.

The 17 May 2000 - a lovely day at Copenhagen Airport. Sun and many interesting aircraft's coming in for the UEFA-Cup final.

Correct that some of the aircraft's positioned out to other airports due to lack of stands at CPH, but actually the majority of them stayed at CPH for the day. There was only one Air Atlanta 747 (TF-ATC) and it was not one of the aircraft that positioned out to come back later!

It was planned that one of the THY A340's should go to Aarhus, but this never happened - would have been a nice visitor to AAR.

Best Regards
SAS767
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1stspotter
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 11, 2001 3:58 am

Hi,

A couple of flights from Liverpool will fly to Munster Osnabruck with supporters.
The Spanish supporters will fly to Cologne/Bonn and some British flights as well.

There is a list of what to expect at Cologne of http://fly.to/cgn
What is expected at Munster-Osnabruck can be seen on my site http://members.tripod.de/planespotters Select the Actual link from the topmenu.

best wishes,
Marcel
 
Rizzibird
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 11, 2001 9:15 am

Airsicknessbag:
Yes, it is my last Abi test. Thanks for wishing me luck! Anyhow, I can assure you that it was PAD that got the Cathay B744 in September 1997. I was at the airport that day, awesome sight to see such a huge jet at a small airport like PAD. I even have some pictures of that event (unfortunately low quality).

1stspotter:
Where do you always get those infos? I admire you because they are always so reliable! Did your "source" mention anything about flights to PAD?

Anyone knows more? Please let me know!

Rizzibird
 
dash8tech
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 11, 2001 3:05 pm

COME ON LIVERPOOL!!!!

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Cheers.
 
Rizzibird
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Wed May 16, 2001 6:57 am

I just got some more definite infos concerning the flights to PAD. A local radio station mentioned 11 airplanes for early Thursday morning. Those will be leaving PAD between 1am and 3:30am. The night flight ban (normally 0:00 till 5:00am) will be lifted for those flights. As of that report, the size of those airplanes will range from 150 to 330 seats, however it did not mention any types or airlines. Anyone knows more? Unfortunately neither the radio station nor the airport could provide me with infos concerning the arrival of those flights. I also checked the videotext and so far it also does not display any flights from Victoria until 10am. Gotta check that once again tomorrow morning.
For FMO, the videotext showed 4 MON and 1 AMM flight until 10am tomorrow morning, I'll try to keep you updated!

Rizzibird
 
Andie007
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Wed May 16, 2001 3:42 pm

TODAY Air Atlanta will arrive at 9:30am at DUS (B747-200). Departure will be tomorrow at 7pm. Wow!


 
airsicknessbag
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 18, 2001 8:17 pm

There were indeed 13 flights Paderborn-Vitoria between 0110 and 0320, plus two more at 0600 and 0930 respectively.
Of those 15 flights, 7 were UX, 4 FH, 2 LK, 1 YP and 1 CRL.
If anyone could tell me what LK and CRL are, I´d be delighted.

Daniel Smile
 
airsicknessbag
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RE: Uefa Cup Finals Charters

Fri May 18, 2001 8:27 pm

OK, sorry, I just read Rizzibird´s other post. LK seems to be Air Luxor, CRL Corsair. Why don´t them idiots at PAD´s departure boards don´t use Corsair´s two-letter code "SS" which everybody understands...

Daniel Smile

P.S.: I don´t know anything about DTM, because they´re not in the videotext, Rizzibird - perhaps we should write a joint petition to the WDR, huh?

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