fox1
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Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 2:14 am

According to The Scotsman newspaper, bmi hope to
start EDI-USA direct flights 'within months'. I suppose
DIRECT means MAN-EDI-USA but hey! this route will
be a guaranteed sure-fire success.?  Big grin

See the story in the business section at
www.scotsman.com
 
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 2:23 am

How many A330's does BMI have for there transatlantic routes? They have opened two routes and one is leased to SAS. Do they have any mor?

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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 2:33 am

bmi will have 2 A330's being used for their transatlantic services, from Manchester to Washington and Chicago. Whilst one more A330 is leased to SAS.

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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 2:39 am

They also have one more for delivery later this year and options on eight more.
 
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 2:40 am

Well this time next year bmi will have 4 A332s, and ofcourse at the momment they only have 2 routes to fly them on, so I wouldn't be supprised if they did open up more USA flights from the north of the UK.

Edinbrough is very popular with Tourists, and as someone said on Pprune, the tourists don't want to fly to Glasgow if they want to go to Edinbourgh, so I'd say direct services make sense!

What cities are likely? New York? Boston? Miami?
I'm guessing that bmi would go for destinations they don't serve from MAN(?)
 
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 2:55 am

Taken from scotsman.com

"Sir Michael Bishop’s bmi british midland, is to launch long-awaited direct transatlantic flights from Edinburgh within months.

The airline, which announced its annual results yesterday, is planning to roll out the new services to exploit the growing number of business travellers coming to the capital from the US.

Speaking to The Scotsman, chairman Sir Michael Bishop said the move was a result of the capital’s growing economic power. He added: "With the Scottish parliament and the city’s stature as a financial centre, Edinburgh is a different proposition now than it was five years ago."

He added that air travel to Glasgow was mainly leisure-based and did not offer the same financial rewards.

According to the Scottish Airports Authority, business travellers account for 44 per cent of all passengers arriving at Edinburgh airport, compared with only 37 per cent arriving at Glasgow.

It is believed bmi faces competition from Continental Airlines, which operates the single direct flight to the US from Glasgow, to launch the first Edinburgh transatlantic flight.

The US carrier is understood to be keen to expand its Scottish operations, and could be lured into a price war with bmi to secure passengers.

It is not known which US destinations bmi will fly to, but an insider at the company said it likely choices included Chicago and Washington, where United Airlines, a partner of bmi in the Star Alliance consortium, has a strong presence.

He said: "United have a network of feeder flights into those two cities, which is crucial to the success of any bmi route into the US," and added that New York and Toronto were also possibilities."

Sir Michael, who was speaking at the unveiling of bmi’s first-ever wide-bodied plane, an airbus A330, said the Edinburgh expansion would only be viable if the Bermuda II treaty, which prohibits the airline flying to the US from Heathrow, was scrapped.

However it is understood that the abolition of the agreement, which is widely seen by the industry as inhibiting competition on transatlantic routes, is high on the government’s agenda, following its expected General Election victory next month.

He said: "We launched the campaign to abolish Bermuda II in 1999.

"It usually takes three years for these things to be sorted out... I believe we will be flying from Heathrow by next year."

Last year bmi recorded a pre-tax profit of £8.2 million compared to £11.1 million in 1999, but passenger levels rose 8.4 per cent to 7.1 million and the planes were 64 per cent full compared with 61.6 per cent in 1999.

The airline attributed the profit fall to costs incurred in its link-ups with European carriers Lufthansa and SAS.

Head of the Institute of Directors in Scotland, Tom Sunter, said the news was a huge boost to Scottish business and called on the Scottish executive to offer a positive response.

He added: "It’s a first-class announcement. We now need government to provide a railway link to the airport."

Andrew Murray-Watson
Thursday, 10th May 2001
The Scotsman"

 
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 5:06 am

I know for a fact that when bmi applied for routes to the U.S. that ATL, JFK, and MIA were among those cities they wished to fly to/from. If and when they get U.S.-U.K. rights out of Heathrow they will drop MAN and concentrate on flights out of LHR. The only reason they've launched out of MAN is to get the name out in the United States. They would prefer to fly to London, but do not want to have to operate out of Gatwick. The only competition they would have to MAN from ATL is Delta's daily flight on a 777.
 
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RE: Srbmod

Fri May 11, 2001 5:13 am

Although bmi would have preferred to fly out of LHR, they will not drop MAN routes unless they are very un-profitable. They will not drop MAN-IAD or MAN-ORD if/when LHR becomes available. If LHR opens up, bmi wont start transatlantic from there until thhey get the next A330 to be delivered after that date.
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fox1
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 11:25 pm

>>He added: "It’s a first-class announcement. We now need government to provide a railway link to the airport." <<

Surprise! Surprise! Guess who's not keen on an
in-house railway station at EDI? Its monopoly airport
owners BAA, they own both EDI and GLA.

They have plans for a station and rail-link at GLA but
go very COLD on the very mention of this essential
facility at EDI.

Perhaps now that bmi and others have expressed interest in EDI for long-haul, BAA might just switch
their Scottish enthusiasm to EDI.?

How many major Euro airports lack full-length
taxiways? , BAA have still to redress this anomality
at EDI.

BAA spend millions upgrading EDI's terminal yet they allow the field to remain as Europe's biggest MERRY-GO-AROUND!  Sad
 
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Fri May 11, 2001 11:54 pm

I am very surprised to see that EDI havent got a full-length taxi-way yet or railway station. Even Teeside has one ! Big grin
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RE: Fox1

Sat May 12, 2001 1:04 am

This is off-topic but still to do with EDI. What a/c are MON using through EDI this summer that you've seen, I have heard A320 but again heard the 757 was being used. Which is it as im flying to LPA from EDI in July?
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fox1
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RE: Bmi To Start EDI USA Flights

Sat May 12, 2001 2:27 am

>>I am very surprised to see that EDI havent got a full-length taxi-way yet or railway station. Even Teeside has one ! <<

Nothing wrong with Teeside! They are not owned by
BAA or in 'bed' with the nearest competitor NCL.

EDI can only compete when its independently
owned.  Smile
 
fox1
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RE: Fox1

Sat May 12, 2001 2:34 am

>>This is off-topic but still to do with EDI. What a/c are MON using through EDI this summer that you've seen, I have heard A320 but again heard the 757 was being used. Which is it as im flying to LPA from EDI in July? <<

Monarch have an A320 based for the season at EDI and
have experienced excellent loads - expect your flight to be full!

Gran Canaria is VERY popular. Take a peek at Monarch's
A320's, G-MONZ and G-MONW on www,edinburghairport.org.uk - updated toward the end
of next week. The pic's that over 8,000 folk have
viewed but airliners.net have rejected!  Sad
 
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RE: Fox1

Sat May 12, 2001 3:03 am

God damn! Im flying Airtours A320 NCL-MAH-NCL and now a Monarch A320 EDI-LPA-EDI. Seems like thats the only a/c I ever get to go on nowadays  Sad
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RE: Fox1

Sat May 12, 2001 11:43 am

>>God damn! Im flying Airtours A320 NCL-MAH-NCL and now a Monarch A320 EDI-LPA-EDI. Seems like thats the only a/c I ever get to go on nowadays <<

You are missing nothing! IMHO the A320 is superior
to the B757. It feels physically roomier!  Smile