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Hawaiian 717's

Fri May 11, 2001 3:15 am

Hi, This is my first posting in a while. I have not been to the fourms in a while, I missed them. Has Boeing sent any of the 717's to Honolulu yet? When does Hawaiian plan on starting the service with their 717's. All of the pictures of the Hawaiian 717's on this web site were taken in Long Beach. It seems to me that they should have had them flying by now, what is takeing so long? I appreciate all answers.

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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Fri May 11, 2001 3:27 am

Look at these pics when the 717 was flown over to Hawaii. It was so long that they had to install extra fuel tanks!


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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Fri May 11, 2001 3:30 am

I have seen those pictures. The thing is I never heard anything about them after that. Are they in Hawaii yet? If ther are, when will they begin service?

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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Fri May 11, 2001 4:07 am

There's an entire article in the new issue of Airways about Hawaiian's 717s and prepping them for the ferry flight. It's a rather interesting article. The article also mentions the initial routes for the planes, I don't have the article handy, so I don't recall offhand where they're flying them to.
 
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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Fri May 11, 2001 4:55 am

I believe the Airways ariticale stated that Hawaiian is currently operating their first two 717s exclusively between HNL and OGG for crew IOE.

The online addition of the Honolulu Star Bulliten had some pictures of HA's first 717 during its introduction ceremony.:

http://www.starbulletin.com/2001/03/15/business/story1.html

 
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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Fri May 11, 2001 7:19 am

Hawaiian has taken delivery of 3 717's and put the first 717 in service in mid-march. They are currently have 2 717's in service and using the third as a spare and for training. I believe the 717 is predominantly used on the routes between OGG and HNL with an occasional trip to ITO.
 
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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Sat May 12, 2001 8:32 am

do you know which flights they do them on?

 
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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Sun May 13, 2001 9:11 am

N475HA, N476HA, and N477HA have all been delivered to Hawaii. N478HA is sitting on the Boeing flightline in Long Beach fully painted. It is due for delivery later this month.

The first 717 was initially used only on flights between Honolulu and Maui, but has since expanded to other cities. My father has flown them a few times between Honolulu and Hilo, he reports that the seats, both first class and coach, are less comfortable than on the DC-9-51s.

Browse through the Time Tables on Travelocity to see which flights are scheduled to be operated with 717s.

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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Sun May 13, 2001 9:18 am

Hmm, a wierd way to look at things but do you think the seats need to be broken in? Sometimes the older the chairs the more comfortable b/c the fit to your body better, just a thought.
 
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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Mon May 14, 2001 4:53 am

I've heard the same thing ... that the 717s (in general) are less comfortable than the Super 80s (DC9s) they replace. I haven't experienced Hawaiian's new 717s yet, but I have heard similar "comfort" complaints from TWA employees who have worked/flown on their own (TWA) 717s.

Personally, the 717 seems to be a glorified F-100.

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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Mon May 14, 2001 5:14 am

The difference with the seating is dependant upon the carrier. TWA and Hawaiian both purchased a newer generation seat known as a thin line seat or low profile seat. It allows for more legroom as the seats as thinner but provides a firmer cushion. The older seats and cushions also did not meet the newer flamability requirements as they produced a toxic smoke when they burned. Most newer MD80s and MD90s have the same seats.
 
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RE: Hawaiian 717's

Mon May 14, 2001 7:05 am

AA's new Super-80 seats are very comfortable in both First and Coach, and with "More Room Throughout Coach," its an unbeatable travel experience.

I highly doubt TWA and Hawaiian's 717 seats & configuration compare. Sorry.

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