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Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 4:56 am

Emirates in talks for 60 new planes-newspaper

Reuters English News Service 05/10/01

DUBAI, May 10 (Reuters) - Dubai government-owned Emirates airline
plans to buy up to 60 new wide-body aircraft worth $10 billion and is
negotiating with Airbus and Boeing, the pan-Arab al-Hayat newspaper
reported on Thursday.

However, any deal with Airbus may be affected by differences between
Emirates and France over the carrier's traffic rights to Paris, the newspaper
said, quoting informed sources.

The London-based daily quoted Emirates chairman Sheikh Ahmed bin
Saeed al-Maktoum as telling it: "We usually don't comment on these issues,
but we are not happy with the French position and we want the rights to at
least daily flights to Paris."

Al-Hayat said Sheikh Ahmed hinted the dispute may have affected relations
with Airbus, which is 80 percent owned by European Aeronautic Defence
& Space Co NV and 20 percent by British defence contractor BAE
Systems Plc.

"We were thinking of buying more Airbus A380s, but we decided to put
that on the side until matters are clear," Sheikh Ahmed said.

Emirates has seven A380s on order and was the first airline to sign a firm
deal for the giant 555-seat aircraft, which are scheduled to enter service in


Mike Simon, director of corporate relations at Emirates, told Reuters: "We
do not wish to comment on negotiations with Airbus," adding that the
French had so far refused Emirates' request for daily flights to Paris
instead of the current three flights a week.

Asked about al-Hayat's report on the plans to buy 60 new planes, Simon
said: "We do plan to increase the fleet and will be discussing with both
Airbus and Boeing new acquisitions."

"We plan a substantial increase in the size of the fleet in the next 10 years,"
he added, but would not elaborate.

Sheikh Ahmed told the newspaper that Emirates Group Managing Director
Maurice Flanagan was in Seattle for talks with Boeing officials on the
proposed Sonic Cruiser.

"We are interested in the Boeing Delta supersonic... I sent Maurice
Flanagan to Seatlle last week to meet Boeing officials and I will go to
Seattle next month for the same purpose because we are very curious to
know this new type (of aircraft) and are interested in buying it," Sheikh
Ahmed said.

He said the talks also include buying more 777 aircraft.

Al-Hayat quoted informed sources as saying that Emirates was looking at
another 20 to 30 Boeing 777s and that some deal could be announced at the
Paris air show next month.

Sheikh Ahmed told the newspaper that Emirates was planning to double its
fleet after instructions from Dubai Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin
Rashid al-Maktoum to increase the fleet to 100 planes by 2010 from the
current 35.

"Our estimates show the number of passengers through Dubai airport will
reach 14 million this year rising to 55 million by 2010. Of those we will
carry about 65 percent or about 30 million passengers a year, which
justifies increasing the seat and operational capacity of our fleet," Sheikh
Ahmed added.

RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 5:00 am

Wow! another 20-30 B777s might get orders from Emirates? Hope this will happen. Will Emirates orders the 777-200LR/-300ER?
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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 5:38 am

This is what is called having the other side by the "short and curlies". EK wants CDG access for double daily. La France says "non"; EK says, "let's see, remind us again who is launch customer for the A380" - and "who might be persuaded to give preference to the Boeing Sonic Cruiser . . .

The potential threat to the A380 from the SC can't be underestimated and if EK were to reduce - or even to threaten to reduce its A380 commitment in favour of the SC, it would do Airbus no good. I can't see the airline dropping its 380 order, but EK is in a position to drive a hard bargain.
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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 5:48 am

My jaw would literally drop if CDG did not give way to EK. I'm sure the labour minister, or whoever, is breathing pretty heavily down CDG's neck.
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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 6:43 am

Just some bkg here...

Emirates has been trying for ages to make CDG a daily. The French authorities have constantly refused. In fact, in December Air France will be upgrading their equipment on their daily service to a 777 from a 310.

So i think Emirates are using their leverage with Airbus to force their way. Not, that they are displeased with their Airbus products, in fact they like them a lot.

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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 7:06 am

and 20 percent by British defence contractor BAE
Systems Plc

I'd say this information is a little out of date, Bae Systems is now Airbus uk.

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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Fri May 11, 2001 7:16 am

I wish to see more Airbuses with EK so hopefully this whole dispute or negotions clear up and EK keeps on buying Airbus products.
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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Sat May 12, 2001 1:43 am

60 planes. That's alot!!!!!!!
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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Sat May 12, 2001 1:59 am

EK is willing to expand a lot these days, but maybe they are a bit to optimistic.

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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Sat May 12, 2001 2:10 am

Hmmm. Personally I don't like what is happenning, however it is very good for EK.

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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Sat May 12, 2001 7:40 am

Wish them the best, but maybe they should slow down a bit Smile
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RE: Emirates In Talks For 60 New Planes

Sat May 12, 2001 8:24 am

BAe has changed its corporate name to Airbus UK? Highly unlikely. I think that story would've made the front page of the FT.

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