Mason
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Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 3:34 am

Northwest Airlines will suspend its four weekly non-stops from SEA to KIX (Osaka) at the end of September. These flights were operated by DC-10-30 aircraft. I do not understand this move. Northwest cited poor economic performance as the main reason for the suspension. There is a huge market for this flight. The problem is that NW charges so much for the flight that most people fly United out of SFO or connect in NRT. NW is operating this flight with the DC-10, which is very costly to fly at this point. Perhaps by putting a newer aircraft such as the 747-400 or mabye A-330 on this route, NW could bring prices back down from the stratosphere and do well on this currently uncontested route. I urge NW to recondisder this move. First, NW drops SEA-HKG, then Boeing moves, now this. Any thoughts?
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 3:37 am

Yup,

If you live in Seattle life is gonna get a little tougher.

Microsoft down. Boeing out. Now Northwest pulls KIX.

The sky is falling!

I suggest a move to Bora Bora immediately!
 
Mason
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 3:39 am

At least the Mariners are doing well, best record in baseball!
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 3:41 am

Maybe they will re-open the route when they get their A330? Hope so.

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travelin man
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 5:22 am

Not only are they suspending SEA-KIX, but according to USA Today, they are suspending KIX-KUL, and KIX-(someplace in South Korea that starts with a "K").
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 5:45 am

KIX-KUL, and KIX-KHH (Kaosiung, TAIWAN...not Korea), as well as SEA-KIX are being suspended...

"There is a huge market for this flight"...so that's why NW wasn't making money...okay...

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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 5:50 am

forgot an "h"...should be "Kaohsiung"
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 5:54 am

Too bad to hear that NWA is cutting that route. You'd think they would be building up their SEA gateway. Some of the traffic will now probably go via YVR as Air Canada has daily non-stop to Osaka.
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 5:58 am

According the Wall Street Journal (10/30/00), ".

"For U.S. and other foreign airlines, the higher landing fees at Kansai Airport are making it hard to add new flights." says Robert Lamansky (NW's governmental relations director based in Toyko). He said Northwest may cancel some of its six daily Kansai flights.

Sounds like this decision has been months in the making.

Regards
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 6:14 am

Alas, the ultimate irony -- you build a brand, spanking new airport as the next "Gateway to _______ (insert region of world)", yet it's so expensive that airlines drop flights to your new "Gateway." At least it looks pretty.
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 6:22 am

This will make it harder for the Japanese tourists to see Ichiro Sad
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Sat May 12, 2001 6:24 am

Anyone have the actual cost to land a wide-body in KIX?
 
Mason
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Mon May 14, 2001 12:43 pm

My original point was that perhaps in addition to the high landing fees at KIX, the DC-10 was too costly to operate on this flight, and NW could not offer competitive fares. I have also noticed this from SEA to HNL. On this route, NW operates two daily DC-10s, but most passengers choose to fly UA out of SFO due to their cheaper fares, including me. Mabye, as GOT said, they will resume this route once the A330s come on line. I thought NW was expanding their SEA gateway, not shrinking it?!
 
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Mon May 14, 2001 12:52 pm

NW seems to cut a lot of int'l routes that are/were doing well. For example: LAX-SYD, MSP-KIX, MSP/SEA-HKG, etc.
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Mon May 14, 2001 6:00 pm

I would be very scared to fly on DC-10 if I had to go across pacific. I just don't like the sound of the engines.

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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Mon May 14, 2001 10:53 pm

THERE WILL BE NO NWA A330'S TO ASIA OR HNL...ONLY TO THE ATLANTIC REGION...AND AS FAR AS THE FARES GO EVERYONE IS GENERALLY WITHIN A FEW DOLLARS OF EACH OTHER ON ANY GIVEN SEGMENT...
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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Mon May 14, 2001 11:02 pm

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RE: Big News From NW: SEA-KIX Suspended!?

Mon May 14, 2001 11:13 pm

I thought A330s didn't have the range to fly SEA-KIX or SEA-HKG? Wouldn't they have to stop somewhere in between for fuel? Are the yields between these destiantions that low to where they can't use a 747. I think the prices can drop if the got ride of the 10 and went to a 747-400. A much more economical craft in maintinance, fuel and more millage to the gallon.
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