ctflyer
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British Charter Airline

Sat May 12, 2001 9:12 am

Has anyone flown on the Boeing 767 operated by the following airlines - Airtours International, Air 2000, and Britannia.

Please comment on service and comfort.
 
fox1
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RE: British Charter Airline

Sat May 12, 2001 11:25 am

>>Has anyone flown on the Boeing 767 operated by the following airlines - Airtours International, Air 2000, and Britannia.<<

I have experience of AIH! I'm not a tall person but I
found it extremely CRAMPED! I think you will have to
pay a premium to get a sensible seating on any UK charter airline.  Sad

 
Demoose
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RE: British Charter Airline

Sat May 12, 2001 7:07 pm

Hi,
I've flown AIH 767 Manchester - Orlando, and it was the worst flight i've ever had!! VERY VERY CRAMPED, even for someone whose not tall! Having a seat inbetween the two aisles didn't help, and we were right next to a draft from the air-conditioning for the whole 9 hours! Service was OK, but this is just Airtours, not renowned for top service!
Found the landing very hard aswell, lots of the overhead bins opened. Two crew members were sat in front of me when landing and didn't seem to know whether to get up and I heard them saying "I hate it when he does these landings!" Nice!
Anyway, this is my only experience on a 767 so can't compare it to other airlines.

DEM
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aussiestu
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RE: British Charter Airline

Sun May 13, 2001 12:59 am


I have flown Air 2000 767 and they were good. Seating was fine but I suppose if you are really tall then it will be a squeeze. The service was good but time spent selling headsets and lottery scratchcards and packets of pringles were monotonous. They even did icecreams. The seating at the bulhead was best and thats where we were sat. The crew on the inbound flight were obviously tired and the service deteriorated rapidly.
 
BY757
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RE: British Charter Airline

Sun May 13, 2001 8:16 pm

I have flown Britannia 767s, they are MUCH better than Airtours (isn't everything?) very similar on seat pitch to Air 2000, I dont know if this is the same with all 767s, but BYs have water fountains at the centre of the aircraft, so u have free water throughout the flight. When i last flew a BY767 it was Royal Service, but if the 360 seats are the same as they are in the 757 then they are much better than AIHs hardboard.

BY757
 
EGGD
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RE: British Charter Airline

Sun May 13, 2001 8:40 pm

I have flown on Air2000's B767, The seat pitch was quite good for a charter airline and the service was excellent.

Never flown AIH....

Whenever i needed a drink, the stewardesses brought me it (alcoholic too  Big grin)

EGGD
 
djmatthews
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RE: British Charter Airline

Mon May 14, 2001 7:22 pm

I flew from HUY-SFB with Britannia on a B767-200ER a few years ago, we were one of the first flights with the 360 service. I got to say, it wasn't the best flight. First they messed up out seating... we paid £10 each to sit together, except if you were under 16 (which I was), then you didn't have to pay, so we arrived at the airport, got our boarding passes, my mum, dad and sister were in row 30, I was in row 4! Nice! The crew were helpful though and help resolve this problem, we did get our money back from Britannia.

Food was an average mush, the seat pitch was tiny, we tend to flew on schedualed airlines usually when goin to America.

The entertainment was the usual 14" TV's stuck everywhere. Bar service was complimentary, I think this was because it was a "special" flight though.

I got to mention though we had an awfully heavy landing in Shannon where we refueled.
 
FireBird
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RE: British Charter Airline

Mon May 14, 2001 10:11 pm

I have only ever flown on a 767 once back from Dulles US to London. I have to say I think it is the worst aircraft Boeing have ever built.

It is noisy, cramped and uncomfortable.

With regards to Airtours International, they are a pretty good airline, I recently flew to Dominican republic with them on an Airbus A330 what an aircraft! Roomy, smooth, quiet and the best feature of all was the tv screen in the back of the seats connected to x2 cameras outside of the aircraft.............cool!

Well done Airbus and Airtours.

Regards

Firebird
 
Guest

RE: British Charter Airline

Mon May 14, 2001 10:41 pm

I've flown' a BY767 ARN-NAT-ARN (11h), IT WAS LIKE HELL!

Regards
Alexander
 
BA FOREVER
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 1:31 am

I flew Airtours International 767-300 (G-DIMB) from Gatwick to Orlando Sanford. It was one of the worst flights I ever had. I was 15 at the time... and not very tall... I found it cramped... My mum, who is 5'1'' found it cramped also. The cabin crew have to worst attitude also... and their plane smelt. Their seats are so narrow in width that their cabin configuration is 2-4-2.. and on other airlines such as Qantas who I flew with... theirs is 2-3-2... just illistrates how they can get an extra seat in!
I WOULD NOT RECCOMEND THESE PEOPLE TO MY WORST ENEMY!

I have flown on Air 2000 too... I flew on 757-200 (G-OOOY) London Gatwick-... their seats were as large as thone in the World Traveller cabin of a British Airways 747-400. Their cabin crew are friendly and efficient, they have lots of legroom and their inflight service and meals are commendable too. I WOULD RECCOMEND THEM TO ANYONE... they are great... no wonder they get so many awards!
 
lmml 14/32
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 1:41 am

I have flown 4 British airlines - Novair (Cal Air) DC10, BA 747 and DC10, Air Europe B757 and Virgin B747. Destination was always the US to MCO (Except BA DC10 to DFW). The seat pitch on the MCO route must the the worst in the world. The idea is to squeeze in as many people as you can to the most visited place in the world (70+Million a year). What do you expect? People press the airlines for lower airfares and they get them. But the airlines are not stupid. They are not charity. Airlines are a business and fly for a profit.
 
EGGD
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 1:55 am

I have never had any problems with Air2000, we flew with them from Bristol to Faro in 1991 when the A320's were still new, and what a great flight!

Only nag is that they are constantly trying to get us to buy duty free goods!

Did British Airlines ever operate a DC-10???? I always thought they only had L1011 Tristars.

ah well.

EGGD
 
LGW
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 2:30 am

EGGD, yes BA operated about 8 DC-10's. Anyway, I have been on 3 BY767's. 1 B762 and 2 763's. I found them all cramped, apart from one of my -300 flights. My LGW-IBZ was operated by a lease NZ 767! so much more room and nicer inside.

LGW
 
BY757
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 6:46 am

on thing i discovered on BY, i think this is true on both 757 and 767, the seats nearer the front of the aircraft seem to have more legroom, and the seats are at a better angle than the seats near the rear of the aircraft, im not getting it mixed up with 360 and 360 premium, but the seats do seem to have more space.

 
icebud
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 7:04 am

A few years ago I flew Airtours International from Manchester to Barbados. I was 16 and very excited at the flight because our travel documents and the brochure stated it was to be the A330. Dissappointment when we turned up at the gate to find a DC-10. Service was good but not very comfortable and only large tv's at fron of each cabin section so difficult to see - same for return flight. My dad complained only to be told there was a problem with A330 certificate and it would not fly till next month.
I have also flown Britannia and Air 2000, Britannia better for service and entertainment but better quality seats and legroom on air 2000.
 
incubus
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RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 7:15 pm

If you're looking to fly a UK charter airline, try JMC. They have recently refurbushed all their aircraft including new ergonomically designed seats. As well as being more supportive, I think the seats are thinner and so give a little more leg room. They fly 757, A320 and DC10 - though I think the DC10s are being replaced with 757-300s soon.
 
Guest

RE: British Charter Airline

Tue May 15, 2001 7:24 pm

EGGD Caledonian/jmc, Monarch, Airtours, Novair/Calair and Laker have all operated DC10s ex UK on charter services.

At the end of the day, people, you get what you pay for - and comfort generally isn't included in a package holiday in Orlando for couple of hundred hundred quid for a fortnight! You want comfort, you can fly Delta, BA, VS or AA... but only in J or F class as their Y class offerings aren't wildly better than charter!
 
B-HOP
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RE: British Charter Airline

Wed May 16, 2001 3:04 am

Thing is, some of them are very unrelible, my friend have a 5 hour delay from Gatwick to Ibiza , appreANTLY, the driver smashed his car on his way in! he is 'pixxed' in the bar before he evn reached the aircraft!!
Live life to max!!!
 
EGGD
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RE: British Charter Airline

Wed May 16, 2001 4:21 am

I know Monarch have a DC-10 (flew it MAN-MON, MON is Monastir) and also Airtours and JMC. I just can't recall ever seeing a DC-10 in BA Colours, Weird!

God i love those DC-10's, RIP!

EGGD
 
Demoose
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Eggd

Wed May 16, 2001 4:39 am

Here's one of British Airways DC-10's that once graced the skies...


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Photo © Andrew Povey



and heres what happened to them...


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Photo © Brian Hill



I also flew Monarch's DC-10 MAN-TFS, pretty cool as its the only time I've been on a DC-10, but I have to say it was showing its age a bit!

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