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AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 1:23 am

Hi all :

I have been told that all American Airlines DC-10 will be convereted to FedEx DC-10. Is it true ?
If yes, what AA is going to use in lieu of DC-10 ?
I found DC-10 a very beautiful aircraft powered with three engines. I have been constantly flying with DC-10 on JFK-LAX ... What do you guy thinks ?

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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 3:07 am

American is in the process of selling its DC10 fleet to Federal Express. They will be converted to MD10 freighters, with the ACF cockpit over the next ten years. United is also selling their fleet to FedEx.
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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 3:26 am

I work for Federal Ex and from what I have heard the company is buying DC-10 and converting them to MD10 freighters to complement it's fleet of DC-10 and MD-11 freighters
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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 4:17 am

Hi I'm Ben
I am real sad to see the DC-10's leave.
Beginning of this year, American had 18 DC-10's left in its fleet and they are retirering 9 of them this year so I think that the remaining 9 will be removed next year. All the DC-10's should be gone by beginning 2001, I think. I haven't heard of AA's DC-10's going to Fed Ex, where did you hear this? I know Fed Ex is getting all of American's MD-11's.

Talking about the DC-10 at American, yesterday it was exactly 20 years that one of them crashed shortly after take off in Chicago. The plane lost the n¡1 engine and quickly lost control, so it fell into the ground like a heavy rock. There were no survivors. This accident is blamed to an incorrect engine maintenance procedure (maybe the mechanics forgot to put a bolt somewhere in the engine pylon, or maybe they put the engine back without closing something in the nacelle, ...I don't know) but this is not the only reason that caused the DC-10 to crash, the aircraft can still remain airborne with one engine out. The other problem was the way the hydraulic lines were set up, the loss of the engine severely damaged the hydraulic systems which made it imossible for the pilot to control the aircraft. That flight was going to Los Angeles. After the disaster all DC-10's were grounded by the FAA.

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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 4:41 am

The main cause of the Chicago DC-10 Crash 20 years ago was that the matenance department of American improperly did an engine change using what i think was a forklift (which they weren't suppose to do) and somehow it cause too much stress on the engine plyon cause a crack that cause the engine to fall off after take off.
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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 6:04 am

That crash severely crippled the DC-10's reputation. I, however, love the DC-10 and have flown it more than any other aircraft. Hey, if you fly United to Los Angeles frequently in the 1980's, believe me, you HAD to have been on it at least a hundred times!!
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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 6:19 am

Just to clarify a small point on the DC10 tragedy at Chicago, the actual thing that made the plane roll over was that the damaged hydraulics caused the leading edge slats on the left side retract, which raised the stall speed of that wing (but not on the right, where the slats stayed in position). Somehow the "out-of-configuration" warning was also knocked out, so the the crew had no immediate knowledge of the situation outside. AA's engine-out climb procedure called for the reduction of speed to V2 + 5 (I think), to allow for the best possible climb with reduced power. V2 + 5 happened to be lower than the stall speed of a wing without slats, so as the aircraft climbed, the speed fell until a stalled left wing was inevitable and the plane rolled suddenly right over and crashed inverted just outside the perimeter.
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RE: AA And DC10-10

Thu May 27, 1999 6:55 am

You've study the lesson Cedarjet. For those of you that want some more details about that there is a good book "Air Disaster 2" with all about that and other accidents!
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