exusair
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Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Tue May 15, 2001 12:29 pm

Heard a gem the other day, just wondering if there's any substance to this statement....anyway here it goes.

Heard from a DL B-777 Captain that after ratification by the rank and file, that DL has access to a number of B-777's that were produced by Boeing and are either in storage, or were delivered to other carriers and are readily deliverable to DL. Cathay Pacific was mentioned as a source for a few of these planes.

My impression was that future orders had nothing to do with the contract, or the outcome thereof.

Anyway, just thought I'd pass it along and see if anyone has heard similar from another source, hopefully more credible than one who has a vested interest in more of these planes in the fleet.



 
The777Man
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Tue May 15, 2001 5:46 pm

This is NOT correct. There are no 777s in storage or readily "available from other carriers". I've heard that DL may order many more 777 upon ratification of the contract, perhaps 30-40 777s. This was mentioned a few months ago. If they placed such a big order, it was suggested that Boeing would increase the production rate of the 777 so that Delta would get their 777s quicker. The next 777 that DL will get will be in March next year. Does anyone have any more info on a potential 777 order for DL ? The777Man
Boeing 777s flown: UA, TG, KE, BA, CX, NH, JD, JL, CZ, SQ, EK, NG, CO, AF, SV, KU, DL, AA, MH, OZ, CA, MS, SU, LY, RG, PE, AZ, KL, VN, PK, EY, NZ, AM, BR, AC, DT, UU, OS, AI, 9W, KQ, QR, VA, JJ, ET, TK, PR, BG, T5, CI, MU and LX.. Further to fly.. LH 777
 
B747-437B
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Tue May 15, 2001 10:36 pm

The truth is actually somewhere in between. There are some used 777s immediately available for the right price and DL does have access to them. However, a chain of events needs to be set into motion before they will be acquired. Right now, it seems to be going nowhere.
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
Kohflot
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 12:03 am

I think the term these days is "Certified Pre-owned 777s" that undergo a 14,000 point inspection before delivery.
Ask why..
 
Shamrock105
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 12:12 am

How many Boeing 777's do Delta currently have at the moment, and how many more do they have on order??? I'm due to fly on a Delta Boeing 777 from DUB to ATL at the end of August. What are Delta 777s like to fly with, in economy of course!!!!!!!
 
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 12:56 am

DL has 7 presently in the fleet.
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
srbmod
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 3:45 am

Very interesting rumor. Delta in my opinion should order more 777s for domestic routes. Use them to reduce the number of flights to certain cities, and free up the smaller aircraft for other routes. Delta's use of the 767-400 on the ATL-LGA route shows that using a bigger plane instead of adding more flights works at congested airports. As for economy on a DAL 777, I can't tell you, because all of my 777 trips have been in Business Elite. I caught a glimpse of the coach section, didn't look too bad.
 
The777Man
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 4:23 am

I don't have any inside info but I still don't see any "used" 777 available for delivery. From what carrier (s) would they come? The777Man
Boeing 777s flown: UA, TG, KE, BA, CX, NH, JD, JL, CZ, SQ, EK, NG, CO, AF, SV, KU, DL, AA, MH, OZ, CA, MS, SU, LY, RG, PE, AZ, KL, VN, PK, EY, NZ, AM, BR, AC, DT, UU, OS, AI, 9W, KQ, QR, VA, JJ, ET, TK, PR, BG, T5, CI, MU and LX.. Further to fly.. LH 777
 
coboeing777
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 4:38 am

check it out www.aerobytel.com and search for used 777's. When I did it came up with 3 1998 777's with low cycles for sale by a dealer in the Seattle area. hmm..anyone interested?
 
exusair
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Ride Report...DL 777 Coach

Wed May 16, 2001 7:37 am

Seat comfort? When I work the flights from ATL-MCO, there are numerous negative comments in regards to seat comfort in the main cabin.

However, after working a trip to England, there were no negative comments form our passengers, and the flight was indeed full.

Naturally, you will want to get an aisle seat followed by a window. It is 2-5-2 seating in the main cabin. To me it appears cramped.

Service wise, expect a beverage service followed by a selection of lunch entrees with another beverage. Duty Free shopping then a midflight ice cream and beverage service. About 1 1/2 hours from arrival, a light sandwich snack with more drinks.

Inseat videos at every seat with a selection of movies on four or five channels.

Hope that you enjoy the flight and enjoy the ride. It is a neat airplane. They will be reconfigured with a 3-3-3 arrangement with a slightly wider seat starting in fall.
 
dynkrisolo
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RE: Turnkey DL B-777's Rumor

Wed May 16, 2001 8:04 am

Air China was once looking for potential lessees. They might still be looking. OTOH, I don't think DL would be interested in the regional version currently in service with CA. If DL needs some B777s quick, it would be the long range version. Maybe Lauda's new owner might want to dump their B772ERs.
 
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Kohflot And COboeing777

Wed May 16, 2001 10:16 am

That's was some good humor. Something that this forum goes without occasionally.  Smile