How about airtran combat the problem from a different angle all together. This will require a BIG step, but i think they've got the know how to do it. Firstly, they need to get their hands on a Boeing 747-200. You can lease one pretty damn cheap these days, and as long as it was well looked after, its still fine. Anyway, then outfit it with about 500 seats, maybe more. Fly to London Gatwick, and maybe Paris Chales de Gulle, And Rome. It doesn't have to be daily flights, just, has to be cheap flights. It could also be done with a DC-10 but that wouldn't last long, or an MD-11, but i think seat mile costs would go up a bit if you flew these aircraft with 400 people onboard compared to 500 onboard the early 747. The advantage here is that the thing would probably cost about the same to lease as a well used 767, but offers much lower seat mile costs. anyway, then airtran has to have a frequent flyer program that they can all use, and, build up passenger loyalty as a result of the frequent flyer program. A good international network, (as long as its profitable) is aways a good way to have loyal domestic passengers. Airtran would have to try very hard, and offer extremely basic minimal service, in order to ALWAYS offer the lowest price, or at least the be the easeist airline to find low price seats on. Thats my suggestion. At the same time, it would capture new markets from foreign tourists traveling to america too for its domestic network.