slawko
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First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:09 am

This afternoon C-GRYV a ROYAL Airlines A310-300 returned from a month of "C" Check in France...It arrived around 6pm local (YYZ) time....This plane is now in FULL Canada 3000 LIVERY. Surprisingly enough it is also the plane that looks best in the C3 colours At first I did not like it, but after you look at it for a little while it doesn;t look half bad, even in C3's UGLY colours....
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
 
captaingomes
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:34 am

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
 
captaink
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:36 am

WOW i would like to see a picture of that aircraft.. Both airlines serviced our island with charters.. and to see a C3 clothes on a A310 ought to be interesting... Anybody has a pic?
There is something special about planes....
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:37 am

No pictures yet the plane has only been in Canada for 3 hours.
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captaingomes
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:42 am

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And to think how nice the A310 looks, to ruin it with the Canada 3000 colours!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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captaink
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:50 am

LOL @ Captaingomes... you really do not like C3 colors do you... I think that they should consider a new scheme.. but i have seen uglier schemes.
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captaingomes
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:53 am

Ok ok, I admit, there is worse out there, but I'm not a fan at all of the C3 colours.
I really hope they come out with something new!

I think if they keep the white fuselage, and the red engines as a base, and work with that, there's lots of great stuff they could do! Let's all cross our fingers, and hope they will do that.

In the mean time ...

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! They're ruining our A310's!!!!!!!!
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captaink
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 11:10 am

I hope they don't go with the mutlicolor tail and white fusalage that every airline seems to love these days...
Hey the A310 might look nice who knows lol  Smile
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Buff
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 12:16 pm

'Fraid I won't/can't jump in with a personal opinion other than the fact that both the name and the colours of Canada 3000 are a long and well thought out process that has garnered world recognition and reputation.

Changing one's colours/names is not something done lightly. Anyone here a fan of the speckled tails sported by BA over the last few years? A marketing disaster.

C-3 is still a relatively new entrant into the world market. Changing it's face at this stage in its history may be disadvantageous.

Just an observation!

Buff
 
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 2:12 pm

I guess they cannot hold the title of having the youngest fleet in Canada anymore. What do you all think?
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 7:14 pm

I agree with Buff, before they go through with a livery change it has to be well planned and thought out. Canadian is the perfect example of what happens when a company changes its look. When they got rid of the CPair and CPair orange colours they lost a lot of international recognition. C3's colours "Charter like" as they may be are well known around the world "From Vienna to Sydney" as the motto goes so what ever they plan to do it must be researched, planned and well marketed.
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BA FOREVER
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 7:51 pm

Air 2000 colours used to be the same as the Canada 3000 colours are now...

They changed it for the tapestry scheme a few years ago.

I think that the Canada 3000 scheme is very dated and actually quite boring, and they really should think about a new image.

I think that this is a job for PUCK and his fantasy Livery zoo!
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sat May 26, 2001 10:52 pm

It's funny that Nuno, (CaptainGomes) Was saying how upset he was about the plane being painted in C3 livery, and this morning he is on that very plane working YYZ-CUN. LOL
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captaingomes
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sun May 27, 2001 6:12 am

Yes Slawko, I worked on that airplane, and it was the worst A310 flight I have been on, in terms of things not working. We were half hour delayed because of the back lavs, then during flight the middle lavs stoped working, and then the other back lavs, and the intercom worked fine on the ground, then stopped working in the air. Boy oh boy, I'll bet if they kept the Royal colours, it would have worked fine  Smile

hehehe.

But I'll be honest, I have to grudgingly agree with Slawko, that it is the best looking of the C3 airplanes I've seen.
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slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sun May 27, 2001 6:16 am

HEHEHEHE Well I have to hand it to the AIr France mechanics...they really out did themselves this time!!! A plane returns from C check and the next day all those problems...and I'm not sure if Captaingomes knows this but the nav system was not working properly and so the plane was restricted to CAT I operations only. Good thing the weather got better in YYZ for the return flight...
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captaingomes
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sun May 27, 2001 6:20 am

LOL!!!

I did notice the pilots had CAT 1 taped to the flight deck, but didn't think about it. Now I know why!!!
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sun May 27, 2001 6:28 am

Can't wait to see the pics (I hope an a.net contributor got a picture today). Did any of you notice if the engines were all red, or if they had the stripes on them? I can't recall whether C3 is sticking with the all red....
Next flight.... who knows.
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sun May 27, 2001 6:35 am

they are going back to the old stripe scheme. and RYV has the stripes on it... RYL on the other hand has plain red engines...although it has no other markings on it just the C3 titles on an all white plane.
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Sun May 27, 2001 9:59 am

C-GRYV was shot on finals to 05 today with Nuno on board (and Boris Stec, yeah!) by myself and Darcy Stevens. The engines had stripes yes. The weather wasn't too good but it was photographed none the less as Elite 2442. A Russian Gov't IL-62 came in right before it as well. Hey Nuno, did you ride j/s?

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RE: C-FRYL

Mon May 28, 2001 3:32 pm

Hey, this C3 737 has a white tail too.


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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Tue May 29, 2001 4:59 am

anyone know anything about C-FRYL ?

r panda
 
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C-FRYL

Tue May 29, 2001 5:11 am

I have photos from Friday of C-FRYL at Dorval in its Canada 3000 paintjob. If I remember correctly it has a plain white livery with red engines and Canada 3000 titles. The tail is all white. I will submit some photos of it this evening.

Does anyone know how long Royal had C-FRYL since there are no photos of that 737-200 on Airliners.net. It seems like Royal used to use that reg. for a leased 757.

Cheers,
Felix
 
slawko
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RE: C-FRYL

Tue May 29, 2001 6:08 am

RYL went into service last week. It has been in Quebec city since march, and was painted in full ROYAL colours, but then re-painted in the half C3 colours. It is a former southwest plane sister ship to C-FRYG. And yes RYL was once a 757 regi.
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Tue May 29, 2001 6:40 am

Slawko or anyone,

Do you know how many B737's the new C3 is presently operating ? Are NAP, NAQ and RYY still being used ? Thanks in advance for any info.

JC
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Tue May 29, 2001 8:04 am

Don't know about Canjet but at ROYAL

NAJ, NAU, RYG, RYL, EIM, and NAX are operating for Pax. NAP is doing Cargo while DCC is being fixed, CDG adn JLT are also doing cargo. NAQ has only 5 hours left in it's life so I don't think it will fly anymore, not for ROYAL Anyway. RYY, and RYH were never intended for long term ops with ROYAL and are in the process of being returned to USair. So that is 6 ROYAL planes in regular operations and three at Cargo with one, very broken plane, so that is 10 total. Plus I think CJ has 6. So 16 planes.
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Tue May 29, 2001 10:38 am

Slawko,

Thanks for the info.

JC
 
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Tue May 29, 2001 12:13 pm

Hey Slawko, any idea what's happening with Royal Cargo??? I've heard they haven't yet settled out the sale of it, but I've heard FirstAir and WestEx as rumoured bidders. Any insight on who will buy it, and when we'll hear the news???

Also, on the topic of RYY and RYH going back to USAir, will there be other aircraft coming online to replace them, or are they already replaced by some of the other 737's that arrived.

5 hours left on NAQ? I assume that means 5 hours before the next heavy check, and that it's not worth the money to overhaul her?
 
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Photos Of C-FRYL

Tue May 29, 2001 9:20 pm

Here are the photos of C-FRYL:


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slawko
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RE: Photos Of C-FRYL

Wed May 30, 2001 2:48 am

I know what is goin on with cargo, but really can't say...Lets just say if they go ahead with what they are saying it will be a big surprise!!

RYH and RYY were ment to be short term leases for the heavy winter flying and so there will be no more "new" 737 arrivals from USair or Southwest.

And yeah only 5 hours left before a D check for NAQ. NAP is in C check this month and will be doing Cargo till DCC is back on it's wings.
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AirCanadaMan
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 2:58 am

Slawko,

You say that there is something up with Royal Cargo,
how long will we have to wait till C3 announces it or we start to see some drastic changes?

Is NAQ going to go through its D check or will they park it/return it?

 
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 3:17 am

looks like everybody hates Canada 3000s colors. I'm hate them too. We should tell them about that. And what, they repainted the 732s in canada 3000s colors. They should sell these little sh.........
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 9:45 am

Cargo announcements should be soon, don't have exact dates.

NAQ will work probably till it is finished with its 5 hours and parked, which is too bad cuz it would have been interesting to see it in one more canadian colourscheme.
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 11:51 am

saw the 310 in C3 colours yesterday when we were taxiing out at Pearson, looked great!
 
jmc1975
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 1:09 pm

It looks like C-FRYL has a no-FRYLs paint job.  Smile
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AC183
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 1:14 pm

Slawko, now that you've said it's a surprise, well, I'll be prepared for anything  Smile - sell it, keep it, contracting out, buying feeders, buying planes, selling planes, taking over feeders. There's so many possibilities...

I've heard the first C3 340 will arrive in September (brand new, Sabena declined delivery). Not sure if it's -200 or -300, but my info is 292 pax complete with business class and some nice equipment installed for passengers, and for crews.
 
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Wed May 30, 2001 3:17 pm

These colors seem to look better!


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As usual BLAME CANADA!

Cheers

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slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Thu May 31, 2001 8:29 am

AC183 You are correct about the A340, and it will be a -300 the 200's can not make it to India, but I don't think these plans are confirmed yet, just possible options.

Oh and BTW NAP and NAQ have been parked as of Today. NAQ has just enough hours left to get it to YQB, to be stripped for parts.
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Fri Jun 01, 2001 2:43 am

Slawko, the A340-200 has a longer range than the -300. It has a shorter fuselage but more range.

Regards,

CPDC10-30
 
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Fri Jun 01, 2001 10:06 pm

The 340-300's are confirmed Slawko. The equipment bid is out for us pilots to have a go at. The aircraft is one that Sabena did not take delivery of.
 
slawko
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RE: First Canada 3000 Repaint Has Arrived!

Fri Jun 01, 2001 11:37 pm

Thanks Gate Keeper, I had heard that a few people from management went to look at the SABENA planes last week.
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