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Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 8:05 pm

How many of you watch airplanes flying high over?
I was lucky enough to buy 20x telescope ZDELANO V SSSR (CCCP) in early nineties from some Russians so I an really see the airplanes
(i.e. - Swissair A330, El Al 747, 777 and many more)
many of these airplanes will not land at my nearest airport anytime at all (Zagreb) so it is really a way to see more interesting airplanes
(just too bad that I haven't got photo equipment to take som pics of these)
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 8:34 pm

Hello,
I do it almost everyday from my terrace with a 20X50 Binocular.
I can see airplanes still high in the sky headed for FCO airport coming from South and East and I can see aircrafts at cruise altitude with vapour trails and sometimes i can recognize them. They usually on a North-South route and most of the time they are LH or SR aircraft.
Sometimes I was lucky enough to catch some Aeroflot TU-154 and IL-86, very noisy even at high altitude; military Nimrod and KC-135 probably directed towards Jugoslavia and some rare B747 flying Westward just above my house.

Ciao

Stefano
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 8:49 pm

B737-700.... don't be so condescending to 9A-CRO.

Obviously you don't care... so why leave a post?... I personally am not interested whether you care or not. However, I am however happy to listen to what 9A-CRO This site is for aviation enthusiasts... not people starting on one another because they feel like it and are arrogant enough to confront them. Grow Up. Learn Some manners.

I live on the approach to Heathrow from the East. The come over at about 12,000ft and some are very low. I can see them clearly and with binoculars I can see which aircraft it is and which airline it is flying for. This morning we have had several Lufthansa, Thai, Qantas, Cathay, Malaysian, Singapore, Air France and millions of British Airways ones.

Regards

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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:03 pm

Hi there,
a few months ago I was spotting at my homeairport FRA and saw Wunala Dreaming on it´s way to LHR. I took some pics, of course, but 300mm were definitly not enough to get a nice shot. A few weeks later I got it here at FRA again, but that time on finals and taking off from 18West. Nice plane.
But yes, it´s interesting to watch airplane flying high over you. Here I see some BA747s etc. daily.
Regards
Ivica
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:09 pm

I love it i have minoculars with stabilazing system.
Also i live in Belgium and there are a lot of planes here flying over?
A lot of B.A and i love to see the 777 of EMIRATS or 747-400 from SQ.
Regards
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:16 pm

Hi,

I live under the flight paths for the Vor's Pole Hill and Trent so im lucky to see a constent stream of aircraft most which have departed LHR and are on there way to Canada and the US. Most impressive sights are the Virgin Atlantic, BA 747's and the Air Canada's usually around 22,000 when they reach me.

James Worth
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:17 pm

First steman well said about 737-300!
And i mean binoculars off cours.
ciao
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:19 pm

First steman well said about 737-300!
And i mean binoculars off cours.
ciao
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:28 pm

the coolest airplane I saw flying ower was E-3 AWACS - rotating antenna looks really great
(it cruised all the time nearly exactly over my house during the operation in Yugoslavia)
when I was at Adriatic at that time I saw numerous contrails of NATO airplanes, but even with 20x binoculars it is impossible to identify a small fighter on cruising altitude
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:42 pm

Living right underneath one of the holdings for AMS, I often have time to take a good look at them during peak hours. Sometimes they are low enough to identify airline or even regcode from the ground using 10-20x binoculars. Once in a while I get a shot using 400mm, but usually I don't care  Smile
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:54 pm

I live in Marin just north of SF and SFO. I usually see many planes approaching to SFO. They are usually narrowbodies. A couple of times I see some widebodies too. However usually most widebodies fly over Point Reyes out in West Marin so I can't see them.

Michael SFO
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:57 pm

I'm a bit confusd today ,BA FOREVER well said about 737-300?
And very nice idea about this topic 9A-CRO.
Regards
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 9:59 pm

You were just shocked by his arrogance!

And I agree... A very nice topic 9A-CRO.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 10:18 pm

I think even that i can see a plane fliyng over here in bru.
And tell the poeple where there are gooing too?
So you can comfirm it and check.

Regards
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 11:20 pm

I was very smiley earlier when I saw an LTU A332 fly overhead to the States.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 11:37 pm

Yes i have some binoculars in which I use to watch planes at cruise altitude at my house in Fargo going to Minneapolis. Usually I see NWA but sometimes I see United.
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 11:48 pm

I also like to watch aircraft flying over Belgium at cruise altitude. So, maybe I've already seen a 777 after all?

A few months ago, I even sa an aircraft doing something weird. Let me explain: I know what holding patterns are, but I saw one aircraft doing this at a rather high altitude. The altitude was high, because there were contrails.

So, I saw a 'contrail drawing' of a holding patterns. Does anybody know if it is normal to see an aircraft perform a holding patterns at, let's say, + 20.000ft? I don't know how low contrails can occur, but I can imagine that the minimum altitude for contrails must be above 15.000ft or so.

Any explanation would help.

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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 11:54 pm

Well, I live in LA, so contrails are not a very common sight in the skies above us. And the few we do see, are usually the AA and DL flights from DFW and ATL going to Hawaii.

Of course, it's a different story when I go to Fresno. Anytime after about 7:30 AM, I can see contrails in all directions, planes coming from the LA area (ONT, LAX, SNA, BUR) and San Diego going to the Bay Area (SJC, SFO, OAK, SMF, even RNO), and vice versa, plus planes going to/coming from PDX and SEA. Planes from the Bay Area heading out and coming in from DFW, PHX, LAS, etc.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Wed May 30, 2001 11:56 pm

I enjoy watching airplanes at cruise altitude because than it is always pretty weather. As I live in the most overcrowded part of Europe each 5 minutes I can see planes (with their long white stripes) heading for Paris, London, Frankfurt, planes coming from and going to the Americas and Southern Europe. The intercontinental planes are mostly A330, A340, B767/777 and B747. Sometimes I see the DC10 and Tristars (spectacular with their 3 stripe tracks). Europe flights I see are mostly BA, Sabena and SAS, MD80, B737, propplanes and small Airbusses. From and to the Americas I see also the DC8's and the B707's freighters and the huge US military airlifters.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:11 am

I have yet to buy a powerful set of binoculars, mine are only 8 by 30. Still, they're good enough to watch planes. In Russia I used to watch traffic go to and from SVO and to various military bases. I've seen VM-T and An-124 over my house regularly. Also I liked seeing 747-200, 747-300 and later on 747-400 of Korean Airlines fly low over my house.

Here in Denver I usually watch the usual ones of United, like 757's and 777's. But I also caught An-124 and a Tristar here.
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:16 am

good topic-dont worry about the sniping thats what normally happens, people are just to jeasouls as they didnt think of the topic....perhaps Mr Jealous(737-000) could take a walk with the number of mr bitters that are in airliners!!!!!!

Dont worry 9A-CRo its probably another bitter idiot who cant believe the fact that people can be right for a change!!!!!

If you dont like a topic, dont pass judgement on it. 737-300, in fact how can u be on airliners and therefore claim to be interested in airlines when you are as rude as this? do u have some inner anger inside?

Anyway back to something more interesting and more worthwhile than 737-300...

I keep getting airtours planes circling around my house, its affecting my property prices...........ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Im on the flightpath for heathrow and stanstead and I think its great to watch planes at cruise altitude and long may it continue

krgds

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Thu May 31, 2001 1:19 am

If you don't care about what people have to say, then perhaps you should leave these forums or quit being an ass.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:24 am

I live out south of DIA and I'm watching the "at-altitude" planes all the time: Delta 777, Atlas Air 747-200, Stealth-Bombers, C-17s, Southwest 737s, planes that I would never, or rarely, see in DEN.

Looking way-up gives me a chance to see what I normally can't.

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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:32 am

I usually do that often with my little 10X50 binocular when I am hunting or fishing especially when activity is pretty slow. Since I am living in midwest USA, Northwest planes are most frequently seen while United is next. It's neat and time killing.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:46 am

excuse me? i hope that comment wasnt directed my way? I dont care what people say!
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:58 am

At my dads house in Noordwijk we get a very good view of approaching aircraft onto the "kaagbaan" (01/18?) from the south. Looks great, from about 15km from the airport.

Also at my brothers house in Stockport we get good views of aircraft approaching the old runway at MAN, and watch them approach right over the centre of Stockport over the viaduct, looks really cool.

btw, about MAN. Has anyone stood on the road under the final approach? Not as good as SXM but still pretty cool if you lived in the houses that nestle in between the VOR beacons and approach lights!

EGGD (not really cruise altitude!)
 
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Eggd

Thu May 31, 2001 2:22 am

My aunty lives directly under the approach to MAN, inbetween Stockport and the airport. I love going to her house beacuse the aircraft fly over sooo low making a huge noise and you pick up every detail of the aircraft, even people in the windows sometimes! I've also been on the road you mentioned, at the start of 24R, its cool with the approach lights right infront of you as you watch an aircraft taking off as it emerges over the hump in the middle of the runway and soars up right over you. Such a buzz!  Smile
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 2:53 am

Used to live at Edmonton N London and spent many a happy hour on my back in the garden watching them come of the stack at North Weald at 7000 and 200kts. Now in bracknell and when landing on 9L turn above me
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 3:13 am

And I thought that I was the only person who watched "high-flyers" (as I call them)!!!!.

Im fortunate in that a lot of the transatlantic traffic overflying the UK passes over my house enroute to the Oceanic Entry point on the West Coast of Scotland (dependant on the tracks in use). Aircraft returning to the UK and Europe also pass over.

Ive been fascinated with high-flyers for many years as it was the only way that I ever got to see large aircraft on a regular basis.

Ive got a 20-60 X 60 scope which comes in really useful for spotting these though I wish I had a stabilising system like Lumumba's !!!!.

Ive recently spotted Lufthansa A340's , KLM 747-400's and Icelandair 757 (with yellow engines) amongst many others. Ive also just realised that some of the high-flyers are enroute to Aberdeen. They pass over me about 25mins before landing so, using the net to check the Aberdeen arrivals I can work out not only the aircraft but its point of origin. Interesting stuff.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 4:36 am

I always sit there and what kind of plane it is, what airline, and where its heading to and from. Gonna have to find a nice set of binoculars one of these days and just sit there and try to look at them up close...
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 4:42 am

It's nice to see the trails on the sky but my binocular is not strong enough so I can see th a/c clear. I can see whether it's two, three or fourengined, but not soo much more  Sad.

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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 5:02 am

The mentions of Stockport brought back memories as I started spotting when we moved to Heaton Mersey in the mid 1950s. In those days the main traffic was composed of BEA and Aer Lingus DC3s, a few Viscounts and the many military aircraft being worked on by Airwork in the old black, southside, hangars and by Fairey where FLS now is.

I saw my first Super Connie (of Lufthansa) when walking by the Mersey near the old bleach works and, later, my first DC7C of SABENA. My primary schol overlooked the approach to MAN and from there, in 1958, I saw the BEA Viscount G-ALWE on its final, fatal, descent followed by a large plume of smoke as it hit the houses on Shadow Moss Rd.

My in laws live in Cheadle Hulme just to the east of the approach and I still look forward to visits in the summer when we can sit out in the garden and, with a 300mm lens take acceptable shots of the larger aircraft on approach.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 7:13 am

I live in San Diego, California. Most of the aircraft that fly over SD at cruising altitude are going either to or from the North American West Coast and Mexico & other parts of Latin America. I see tons of Mexicana A320s, 727s, and 757s, AeroMexico Md-80s, and the odd AeroCalifornia DC-9. Among some of my favorite planes to spot up at cruising altitude are:

Korean Air 747-400 LAX-GRU
JAL 747-200 LAX-GRU
LanChile 767-300 LAX-LIM
Canada 3000 A330-200 YVR-PVR

I have yet to catch any of Varig's flights to GRU from LAX, unfortunately.

Aaron G.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 9:32 am

Living next to JFK, I can see quite a few transatlantic flight's overhead from ATL, IAD, BWI, CLT, and others. There are also many flights enroute to BOS, BDL, PVD, and MHT. The highlight was a Canada 3000 A330 enroute from Trinidad to Toronto, we don't get those in NY.
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 9:39 am

I can watch all the traffic from Orlando and Miami bound for Europe and the heavily travelled Northeast-Florida traffic from my porch here in North Charleston, SC. I see Virgin 76 very nice on a clear day and all the orange bottomed Southwest 737s.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 12:24 pm

Anytime I visit a new area the first thing I do is get the scanner out to try to learn the hi-altitude ATC freqs overhead. The airport/facility directories are a useful starting point but for some reason they don't include many important freqs. I hate to see any airliner go by that I can't make a reasonable guess at its origin and destination.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 12:32 pm

Living in New Orleans, and working at MSY, we are located near one of the main VOR navigation points (Harvey-HRV-114.1) for aircraft on jetway J58 (which runs from DFW over MSY to SRQ-Sarasota, FL). Aircraft going to/from DFW on their way to/from TPA, SRQ, RSW, MIA, FLL, PBI take this airway which flies directly over MSY.

We also get overflights from MSP to CUN, and Europe to MEX.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 12:49 pm

every once in a while when I think of it I can see, with binoculars some planes flying over the SF area. I have no idea where they are going though as they are heading about nnw.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:07 pm

They're mostly 747s, aren't they? Out of LAX to the Orient, likely. The 737s from SoCal to PDX and SEA are all well inland and we rarely see them over the Bay Area.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:11 pm

Forgot to mention: those 747s from LAX to NRT-SEL-KIX-TPE-HKG will be switching from 133.7 to 133.375 somewhere around SJC.
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:18 pm

When I watch high flying planes I use a 10x50 pair of binoculars, which is ok....but I would like to get something better....what kind of binoculars do you guys use?
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 1:36 pm

Sometimes their are conditions that make it possible to spot an aircraft with the naked eye. I have found it usually works best in the evening with west bound aircraft. Something to do with the angle of the sun and I think the aircraft were at a lower crusing altitude. my guess is around FL 250. I have spotted a southwest 737 and a american md-80 while driving. The SLN vortac gets a lot of traffic and some of the published routes run parallel to interstate 70. I guess that can be as dangerous as talking on the cell phone! Also one can spot in a C172R at 11,000 ft! Seems when you get that high the air is much clearer wich makes it great for spotting!
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 2:23 pm

I sometimes sit on my roof with my binoculars and get nice close-ups of approaching 737s, etc.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 4:17 pm

I live in Huntsville, which is about 140 miles from one of the biggest airports - ATL. Most planes coming from the west and midwest will fly directly over me.

I have an air band radio, and i can pick up transmissions on the ATL Center's frequency but only from the planes, not the Center. One time I heard a Delta pilot come on, "Center, Good Afternoon, Delta ___ with you at three one zero"...then a few seconds later, he said "down to two four zero. Delta___"

So I went outside and looked around, and sure enough I saw a contrail headed southeast. I went in to the computer, put the flight # into flight tracker, and saw that he was indeed a 757 originating from SLC.

For some strange reason, I always see planes headed TO atl but rarely see them headed FROM atl. Guess the westbound traffic is further south or something.

Wow......

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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 4:50 pm

What is holding patern?
Thank you;
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RE: Watching Airplanes At Cruise Altitude

Thu May 31, 2001 5:11 pm

Hi DRAGON-WINGS i using CANON 15x40 with stabilazer.
And i think it's perfect it could be better if there where stronger but it d'usnt exist yet.
And the stapilazing system is beautiful!
I use to look with a 30x50 but it's or to heavy or not (with a foot) flexyble enough.
Regards

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