cedarjet
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Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Thu May 31, 2001 11:29 pm

Ryanair have said that in the future, they may not even charge fares at all (at the moment advance booked seats can be as cheap as £19 one way). They claim that charging for meals, checked luggage allowance, car rental booking, hotel booking, seat back TV and gambling will make enough money so that the actual airfare is £0.

No wonder a Southwest exec said last week, "Thank God these guys aren't allowed to fly in the US."
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Thu May 31, 2001 11:36 pm

Ya,

To be honest, I think it's a little dangerous to go round making those sorts of comments....seeing as I'm not an Airline Exec though, my comments are largely just guesses....

.....surely he wants to make as much profit as poss though, even if they are making these already??

Taxes are, as ever, going to bring the price of travelling to around GBP15 though.....but still, good on Michael O'Leary!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Big grin

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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Thu May 31, 2001 11:58 pm

I think that if SWA will come to Europe...... or some big European decide to open a real low-cost (not like GO for BA).....
...Ryanair can really say...."BYE BYE"!!!!!
 
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 12:33 am

I'd sure like to know the opinion of the shareholders, once Ryanair will announce their first losses one of these years...

On the other hand, it's a smart way to see a lot of people taking their first stept to occasional flying. And, once they get used to it, Ryanair probably will start raising their fares bit by bit...

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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 12:39 am

Sounds like a dot.com business model - give it away and they will come. If they start talking about their cash-burn rate, look out, trouble will be coming.

I find it hard to understand how charging for incidentals can cover what they would have charged as a fare. This must be a gimmick.
 
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Far

Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:01 am

OK--i am still trying to quit laughing  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud This HAS to be a joke. What kind of CEO goes around and flies people for free??? That is ridiculous. What will stop people from traveling? Heck--I'd move to Ireland just so I could go wherever I want in Europe for free. If they decide to try this, they will be out of business sooner than you can say "I told you so".

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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:29 am

BTW,

I think what was meant was that for a variety of flights, a small number of seats would be offered free-first come, first served-the remainder are then sold at a cost....I doubt they will be flying entire planeloads of non-rev pax.

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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 2:10 am

Well why not?? I think the MD has made enough money over FR's career. I love FR and i flew a few times for £10+stupid UK takes which cost double the airafare. Even fullfare its still much chaper than crappy Air Attitude (aka easyJet) and GO!
 
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:31 am

Ryanair are probably the most aggressive airline in the world, they exist for one reason only, to make loads of money. And they're very, very good at it. I don't see why this isn't the future of air travel, at least for the first ten seats on each flight. I think as long as people are willing to pay £10 or £20 then Ryanair (or whoever) will charge it, but the analogy that springs to mind is that touring rock bands make much more money on t-shirt sales than they do on the box office, and apparently the same is also true of the airline business. With people paying for checked baggage, meals, TV, gambling, and booking hotels and cars from their seatbacks, that's a lot of revenue. Surely the more passengers doing all these things, the more money is made. So Ryanair will do anything they can to get as many passengers on board as possible. If that means not charging some of them for the seat, then fine. Once they're there and strapped in with their credit card in their hand, the pounds start rolling in. Sounds pretty innovative to me.
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:37 am

If Ryanair really is going to start this kind of strategy, I think we aviation enthousiasts can only be happy with that.

For instance, I'm gonna fly just for fun, and come back. I'm not gonna buy anything, just enjoy flying. Tomorrow Ireland, day after tomorrow France, and so on.

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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:52 am

Don't you think in that way where they can offer everything,at the end the cut off on safety??

No one talk about safety......... (don't forget Valujet....)

I really hope Irish authority check very carefully Ryanair planes.I flew 2 time with them and probably again in the future.They are cheap,planes (B737/800) are new and now don't need many manteinance,but It's better not forget the safety of pax.....
 
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:08 am

There will likely be a clause in the contract (uh, ticket) saying you have to spend a certain amount onboard or you will be charged for the seat anyway (for example, you have to make 10 minutes of calls on the satphone and/or buy for €50 of tax-free items during the flight).
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RE: Ryanair To Do Away With Charging Passenger Fares

Fri Jun 01, 2001 9:59 pm

They did free flight a few months ago after pilots called off a strike.