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United Airlines HNL-ORD

Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:25 am

Hello I know UA had got rid of there ORD-HNL flight because they retired the DC-10 but why dont they just use a 767 on the flight instead of not having a flight. Im sure that flight was sold out just about all the time.
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RE: United Airlines HNL-ORD

Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:30 am

They have a pilot rest issue. Pilots want to have 2 crews on the plane and the Airline wants one so until they agree they wont be flying that route
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RE: United Airlines HNL-ORD

Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:01 am

Another issue is that flights to Hawaii are frequently very low yeild, so many pax on those flights are using mileage awards (in all classes of service) that it becomes a very expensive proposition for the airline.
This is why airlines fequently use fully depreciated older aircraft on Hawaiian routes.

I think that ORD-HNL nonstop will reappear in UA's schedule in the future, in a couple years, as UA takes delivery of more 777 aircraft and more wide-body aircraft become available in general. Also remember that UA retired its 741, 742, and DC10 fleets in very quick fashion, maybe this is also part of the reason that the ORD-HNL nonstop is not operating at this time.
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RE: United Airlines HNL-ORD

Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:58 am

Service between HNL-ORD is definitely low yield. It is essentially a frequent flyer award route.

As to the pilot rest issue, this was the main reason given by DL for cancelling its HNL-ATL and DFW flights, although this has apparently been resolved as they are gearing up for resumption of these routes in the fall.

As far as old aircraft being used between the mainland and Hawaii, DL has retired its L10s from service between HNL-LAX and SFO and replaced them with brand new 764s which are much more fuel efficient.