CX747
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Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sat Jun 02, 2001 3:12 am

I asked this question a while back but was unable to get an answer. Does anyone know the retirement schedule for the 4 P&W powered 747-200s that are being replaced by the 5 747-400s being delivered this summer? The aircraft in question are:

G-VIRG: Maiden Voyager
G-VGIN: Scarlet Lady
G-VJFK: Boston Belle
G-VLAX: California Girl

"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
 
Sukhoi
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sat Jun 02, 2001 4:16 am

VLAX & VJFK are being retired this month they are both going to Kabo Air.

Nothing officially confirmed on the other two.

Regards

Paul
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sat Jun 02, 2001 5:47 am

MIA-LGW switches from 742 to 744 on 14 June. I'm assuming that's because one of the aircrafts is being retired.
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sat Jun 02, 2001 5:52 am

Poor classics.  Sad
 
LGW
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sat Jun 02, 2001 6:07 am

I have been on GIN and man that was 15 moths ago and it was looking tired then!

LGW
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sat Jun 02, 2001 6:43 am

If anyone wants to see G-VIRG preserved we could all email Sir Richard.

As to VGIN looking tired, it is the oldest aircraft in the fleet, with a first flight date of 28 April 1971 (just realised that was 25 days after I got married), so for the last couple of years or so it will have hardly been worth spending too much on the cabin or the exterior as the retirement date has been planned, postponed, planned and postponed again. Don't expect a reprieve this time though  Sad
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:12 am

I've just come back from MCO this morning on VJFK. There have not been any specific dates announced for the retirement of these four a/c. It is all tied in with the arrival of the new 744s, so it will be approximately another month before we see the final departures. By all means e-mail Sir Richard about G-VIRG. Encourage him to send it to a museum or perhaps keep it in the grounds of his estate in Oxfordshire!
 
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Jetstreamer

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:17 am

Hey Jetstreamer, do you have an email address for Sir Richard? Would be cool to see him paint it back into the 1984 c/s and maybe restore the original interiors. Anyways I'm close to booking my VS flights this summer, I'll give you the details when they are booked so you could possibly bid on my flights.

Long Live Virgin!
Jeremy
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:17 am

how do we contact him?

HL  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:17 am

Does anyone know when BOS is going to 744 from 742?

Jeff
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:32 am

I don't have a direct e-mail address for Sir Richard. Sorry! I would suggest e-mailing Customer Relations or Public Relations as they are very good at passing information on to the man at the top.

Jeremy, let me know your dates when they are finalised and I will try and get on the flights.

Jeff, I don't know exactly when BOS is switching onto the 744s. The only information I have at the moment is the last of the new LGW 744s is due for delivery on July 13th, so it should be by then at the latest.
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Tue Jun 05, 2001 4:32 am

Actually, according to the VS website, BOS-LGW will not go 744 until 29 October. I don't know how reliable that is, but that's what it said.

LH423
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Wed Jun 06, 2001 1:39 am

Virgin is actually looking for FOUR additional B 747-200s. I read an article on this after they have announced their plan to buy up Alitalia's B 744s.

 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Wed Jun 06, 2001 3:57 am

Still, October is not bad...by then we'll have two 744 carriers to BOS, BA, and VS!

Jeff
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Wed Jun 06, 2001 5:12 am

You won't see any new 400's flying into BOS until they have been in service for six months. This is because the state of Mass. has a law where any new (to a company) a/c have a huge tax charge levied against them EVERY time they go to the state until they are six months old.
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Wed Jun 06, 2001 6:01 am

Is there a reason why Boston has this tax? I would assume that it was put in place to keep operators from flying in new and "unfamilar" equipment.
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Wed Jun 06, 2001 7:16 am

Unfamiliar to who ?
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Wed Jun 06, 2001 10:49 am

Retiring the 742! they just got a load of them from CX, and NZ!!!
Anyway, there where 3 VS 744 at AKL on friday getting all their interiors and stuff done! first time I have seen a VS 744, they look good in that new-ish colour scheme!

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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:09 am

New and "unfamilar" to the airline. My thought on the tax is that Boston doesn't want to have to deal with airlines that are using equipment that they have not operated before. Therefore allowing for a "breakin" period in the airlines operations with the aircraft.
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VC-10
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:26 am

Operating an a/c is not like buying a new car and driving off in it. The crews have to be trained and pass regulatory authority tests as do the ground staff.

Apart from which VS have been operating 400 for 7 years now so it can hardly be descibed as a new a/c.

The tax is just an opportunity for Mass to make a quick buck
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:33 am

VC10,

Does it apply to US domestic airlines as I've seen very new aircraft at BOS (both in terms of age or new to a carrier) just about every time I visited during the last 20 years?
 
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RE: Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.

Thu Jun 07, 2001 6:50 am

I don't know.