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Continental 737-300's

Sat Jun 02, 2001 11:02 pm

Continental operates 56 737-300's and is the second largest US operator of 737's after Southwest Airlines
with 225 in total (including the -500, -700, -800 and
now the -900).

Most of the -300's were acquired in the 1980's when
Continental was busy consolidating with PeoplExpress,
Frontier, Texas International, and bits and pieces of
Eastern Airlines.

What are the origins of the -300's? Were they bought
new or leased? Did they have prior owners?

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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sat Jun 02, 2001 11:10 pm

Most of the 737-300s (about 50) were ordered and purchased during the Texas Air ownership days, that is why they are 737-3T0s instead of 737-324s. The were purchased new from Boeing, some may have been placed on leasing/financing arrangements over the years.

The remaining handful of 737s are leased (I think there are 7) were received later and are leased from ILFC, those are the 737-3Q8s in the fleet.

Its hard to believe, but the 737-300s are among the oldest aircraft in the CO fleet at this point but they are not yet ready for replacement; CO will dispose of its MD-80s first.
 
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sat Jun 02, 2001 11:11 pm

I'm sorry I don't know much about the origins of Continental's 737-300s, but on another extreme, I do know that Continental may start retiring them over the next five years. This is only an option that they have open in their fleet plan, its not definite.

I flew EWR-MCO-EWR on 737-300s a few years ago, it was a very nice flight and seemed like a pretty new plane to me.
 
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:51 am

Texas Air's original order was for 60 733s. All but the last five were delivered between 1985-87. These are Ships 301-355. The remaining five were built but ended up with other carriers until the early/mid '90s when CO was able to aquire three of them (Two from AQ, one from HP. These are now Ships 356-358). I believe one of the last two was an insurance write off after a bad landing somewhere in Central America. As for the fate of the 60th -3TO, I know not. The seven additional 733s were new-built leases deliverd in 1994-95(Ships 380-386). These have the same flight deck layout and displays as the CO 735s.
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 12:52 am

Continental, I think acquired their 733s in the mid 1980s. Around '86 and '87 I think. Hopefully, they will retire them soon. I think that CO is a great airline, but the 733 needs to go like the 732 did. COntinental has a great fleet outlook in the future with 735s, 73Gs, 738s, and 739s. Continental is stocked with short-medium range aircraft. With the 752s, 753s, 762s, 764s, and 772s and maybe even 773s, CO is looking good in the future.

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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:01 am

After the DC-10s, the next to go will be the MD-80s. The 733s will follow after that, starting in the 2005ish time frame.
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:10 am

I heard that the Atlantic routed DC-10s will retire first, then domestic, then Pacific.
 
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:11 am

NY Air flew 737-300s also,I flew IAD-EWR-TPA on a NY Air 737-300 around '85. Those went to CAL later.

I've flown CAL's 737-300s on a few occasions,I think they're still very appealing aircraft,I flew one from LAX-SFO back in '97 and it had TVs over the aisle and they were showing sitcom highlights and music videos.
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:36 am

The NYAir 733's were also part of the 60 aircraft Texas Air (-3TO) order. TAir divvied them up as needed between the two (then) sister carriers until they merged everything together under the CO name.
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STT757

Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:50 am

STT757,
I think that you are thinking of when CO first got the 735. I flew on one, but it didn't have TVs, it had video games on the seats. I think only the CO 738s and 739s have TVs on them. But correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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RE: STT757

Sun Jun 03, 2001 2:42 am

No, STT757 is right. Some 733s have tv's over the aisles. And also the 73G have tv's
 
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 2:46 am

Some of the CO733s do have an IFE installed(just TV screens down the center aisle). I do not know just how mamy, but I believe it to be no more then ten. These aircraft were originally intended for longer range flights (Cle-Lax and such) and have (had?) an extra fuel tank installed for that purpose.
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 5:30 am

Thanks all for your responses.

I believe some -300's were retroffited with IFE's when they were used to operate CLE-West Coast flights. It
seems as though flights to LA and SF from CLE now
operate with the 737-700, which were delivered from
the factory with flip down TV monitors.

I agree that the -300's are not old at all. The oldest
ones probably date back to the early to mid 1980's
and are ideally suited for many medium range flights
operated out of the Houston hub. They share many
features and commonality with the -500 but also w/
the -700 and -800 and -900 and are common-rated
so Continental will probably not retire them until the
MD80's leave the fleet.

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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 6:21 am

CO has about 10 733s with the IFE system. They are used on the long-range flights out of all hubs and are seen frequently on the EWR-Florida routes during the slower summer season when the 737-800s and 757s are less-used. Currently, the aircraft we have with IFE systems are:

737-300 (Aisle monitors, audio, only on some ships)
737-700 (Flip-down LCD screen from PSU, audio, all ships)
737-800 (Same as -700, all ships)
737-900 (Same as -700, all ships)
757-200 (Flip-down LCD screen from PSU, audio, all ships, some ships with PTV in BusinessFirst-Int'l)
757-300 (Flip-down LCD screen from PSU, audio, all ships)
767-200 (PTV at all seats, audio, monitors in aisles and bulkheads, all ships)
767-400 (Same as -200)
777-200 (PTV at all seats, audio, monitors in aisles and bulkheads, all ships)
DC-10-30 (Video monitors on projector at bulkheads, monitors in aisles, PTV in BusinessFirst, all ships)
 
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 6:34 am

Where does US Airways stand in number of 737s? At some point they operated more 737s than any other airline (not sure if just in the US or worldwide). I guess they have fallen behind since Continental and Southwest continue to get new Next Generation 737s while US Airways has chosen Airbus instead of the 737.

Not sure about CO, but all of US's 737-300s and -400s have video monitors over the aisle. They used to be use on transcons (not anymore thankfully). Now all that is shown is the safety video and the welcome aboard video at 10,000 feet. Never seen any other entertainment (unfortunately; I like how CO and DL have short features on Northeast to Florida hops).

 
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 7:23 am

The 737-300 I flew from LAX-SFO back in '97 originated in CLE.

Im not sure about the 737-300s range but for a short time after CAL purchased Presidential airways and before the Newark hub CAL had a hub at Dulles airport outside DC. I have a CAL timetable from either '86 or '87 and it shows that CAL had a nonstop IAD-LAX flight with a non-wide body,Im sure it wasn't a 727 so it must have been a 737-300.
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RE: Continental 737-300's

Sun Jun 03, 2001 7:48 am

USAirways and United both operate around 180 737s.

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