AA has no 747s?

Sat Nov 28, 1998 8:17 am

Just have a little question: Why doesn't American Airlines have any 747s in their fleet?
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RE: AA has no 747s?

Sat Nov 28, 1998 8:19 am

I am not exactly sure why, but they did have some a few years ago. I think that they think that the 747 is just too big for them. Currently their biggest plane is the MD-11 and they will soon be getting some 777s.
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RE: AA has no 747s?

Sat Nov 28, 1998 8:26 am

Didn't they have some 747SPs a few years ago?
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RE: AA has no 747s?

Sat Nov 28, 1998 8:29 am


RE: AA has no 747s?

Sat Nov 28, 1998 11:11 am

The reason they got rid of the 747 SP as they were to expensive to operate and the 767 could do a better job. I think the 777 will fit in the AA fleet nicley.
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RE: AA has no 747s?

Sun Nov 29, 1998 12:36 am

They don't have any 747s because they do not have an extensive Pacific Rim service. United does and they operate 34 747-400 aircraft, 9 747-200 aircraft, and 1 747-100 aircraft. Does anyone know if the rumor of Delta getting ready to order some 747-400s is true?
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RE: AA has no 747s?

Sun Nov 29, 1998 3:41 am

Back in the 1970s when American got their 747s, it was the only widebody around. So naturally, most airlines ordered a few for their high-density routes. It was either that or the 707 until the introduction of the DC-10 and L-1011. Both Delta and American didn't have very extensive Pacific routes, so the smaller planer were more appealing to them. American went with the DC-10 and Delta with the L-1011. Both now rely on the 767 for their high-density and trans-Atlantic routes. Both airlines operate the MD-11 on routes across the Pacific.

RE: AA has no 747s?

Mon Nov 30, 1998 1:04 pm

I think UA has more than 1 747-100 right now, as most of their honolulu services use 747-100s.
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RE: AA has no 747s?

Tue Dec 01, 1998 10:59 am

American did have some 747's since 1970, they were among the first customers to get it, belieive it or not. In the 1970's, American had 16 747-100's which were flown on high-density domestic routes (JFK-LAX for example) but they had a terrible experience with them. Let me explanin this: American always had a strong domestic network which at that time consisted of 707's, 727's and DC-10's. But because of the oil crisis in 1973, the 747 was not efficient anymore to operate on domestic routes. The 747-100 was very fuel thirsty and the jet fuel price was increasing dramatically. So it was obvoious that the DC-10, which AA launced and got in 1971, would fit better in the domestic network than the 747 would. In 1984, the last 747-100 was phased out. Two years later, American acquired 2 B747-SP31's from TWA. Those 2 747's were put on the daily DFW-NRT flight until 1991 when the first MD-11 came. The 2 747's were then put on transatlantic flights out of JFK for one year, they were phased out in the mddle of 1992. Since then, American has had no more 747's of any variant. They have never had any 400's.
They have chosen the 777 over the 747-400 because they know that the 777 will be more efficent for them to operate (fuel efficiency, load factor, ...) . So why doesn't American have any 747's? The answer is there is no need for them to operate such a high capacity aircraft on the network that they have. The 767 and 777 fit much better.
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