Kuba74
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Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sat Jun 09, 2001 6:58 pm

Have you ever been on the flight with all female cockpit and cabin crew? Is it possible, or the operator`s policy requires at least one male crew member on the board?
I have flown once with the female first officer. That was Eurowings ATR 72, flying from Berlin Tempelhof to Frankfurt, the crew was made of four persons with flight captain as the only male crew member.
 
jmc757
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sat Jun 09, 2001 7:11 pm

I haven't but my parents have. They flew an Aer Lingus BAe146 from Birmingham (UK) BHX to Dublin, Ireland DUB.
The whole crew were female, two female pilots and a total female cabin crew. So it can happen!
 
godbless
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sat Jun 09, 2001 9:44 pm

I would really love to fly with an all female crew. I also wish that there would be more femals that are into aviation. Too bad, aviation is still kinda too much male...
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sat Jun 09, 2001 10:42 pm

I read an article in a dutch newspaper where a KLM flight was flown with an all female cockpit crew. But it was so rare that it did make the papers write about it. Also,...The KLM 747-406 PH-BFC flew through vulcanic ash above Alaska killing the engines and sandblasting the cockpit windshield to zero visibility. The crew successfully restarted and made an emergency landing in Anchorage. The engines had to be replaced in Anchorage at -40 in mid winter. The first officer was a female.
I just saw a program on TLC about the WASP. A female group of pilots ferrying aircraft in the second world war from factories to air bases. It found that at Camp Davis the male pilots added sugar to the fuel and succeeded in killing three. Woman pilots in my opinion are as good as men. Women intend to have a better eye for detail. One of the women pilots of WASP her daughter is currently flying for United. Right on!
I think, listening to international traffic, that United Airlines has the most female pilots. Does anyone know?
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sat Jun 09, 2001 11:55 pm

Hi,
I was flying many times with female F/Os on Lufthansa and Lufthansa City Line.
I wish we could see more women sitting in an airlinercockpit!
Regards from FRA,
Ivica
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 12:09 am

Have never flown with an all female crew, but I know that Canada 3000 had the first all female crew operating flights accross the atlantic.
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 12:30 am

Canada 3000 was the first airline in Canada, and I think North America, maybe the world to have had an all-female crew.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:09 am

A female F/O almost crashed an AUA A321...so I am careful when I travel with a female CPT or F/O...haha, just kiddin' but that AUA story is true!!!
Cheers!
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:24 am

Hello All

I flew on Aer Lingus couple of months ago to Paris , with an all female crew, on a B737-500 . Yes no problem, no different. Aer Lingus has had female flight crews since 1979 ....... which airline employed the first ??

 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:28 am

I think it could be possible as I don't see airlines having regulations for a mixed crew. I have flown on a B737-800 which had 2 male flight crew and the cabin crew was 3 males and 1 female so out of a total crew of 6. only one was female. I have also flown a Boeing 757 with a female pilot and another boeing 757 which was two male pilots and all 7 cabin crew were female so it can vary so much from airline to airline.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 2:01 am

Yqfca said "Woman pilots in my opinion are as good as men. Women intend to have a better eye for detail."

This is true but men tend to fly the plane better according to a study I saw on aircraft accidents involving men and women. Accidents involving men tended to be caused by a lack of attention and detail where as women because of a loss of control.

Not trying to start anything here.  Innocent

Maybe the perfect crew would be a man and a woman... Smile
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 2:11 am

"operator's policy requires at least one male crew on board." If this were ever true I'd hope that such an airline would crawl under the rock it came from or return to the ice ages. What would be the point of it? If a woman, man, gay, lesbian, black, white, brown, etc. is qualified, that's all any airline should care about.
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 3:19 am

I had two ladies in the cockpit on United Shuttle from DEN to LAS...and three males cabin attendants...excellent role reversal...nice looking crew too...that's something you don't see too much in the US...a good looking crew.... Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 3:48 am

Air New Zealand's subsidiary Freedom Air International's trans-Tasman 733s frequently go over with an all female crew - cabin and pilots  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 3:56 am

Its quite common here in India. The first all woman crew flight in the world was by Indian Airlines (IC) from Calcutta to Silchar, and the first all woman jet flight was from BOM to GOI also by IC. At one time IC had more woman pilots than any other airline. Now i think it is BA?

I have been on so many all woman crew flights that i have lost count!

The reason why some carriers in this part of the world prefer female pilots to male is that women are considered more "emotionally stable" whatever that means! i personally dont think that they are any different from the guys.

With regard to another question asked, i think it is mandatory to have atleast one male crew member on atleast some widebodies like the A300's. All A300 flights i have been on have had atleast one male FA onboard usually seated in the centre overwing exit (the rear facing one).
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:01 am

The first all female crew on a 747 was on PeoplExpress in the early 80s.

I've also been on United flights with Female cockpit, and male FA. (But that way they can all talk about their husbands.. Please don't take any offense... I am sure some female pilots are lesbian. And as a family member, I'll take male fa anytime.)
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:17 am

I have rarely even seen female airline pilots. I've seen a few women when I go for my flying lessons, but still it's mostly men. All of the CFI's where I fly are men. I think I read somewhere that only 6% of licensed pilots are female.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:55 am

JM uses an all female crew on it's A320 runs from MBJ-FLL sometimes.As for having female crews, JM has had them from 1976, with the highest being F/O. That lady now (Mrs. Marie Haddad) now captains the A310's into JFK and EWR.(She's a damn good pilot!)


 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 8:34 am

I was once the only male member of a crew on an AirMalta B733. About four years ago. A few weeks before that, the airline operated the first much publicised all girl crew on the same type.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 8:42 am

I got a chance on a BA 737-200 flight a few years back. This was a Euro Captiols tour. The other was a KLM 747-400 flight AMS-DEL.
"FUIMUS"
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:49 am

If I was the only male crew member on the flight, and the other 7 or so were female I would be pretty happy =)

I don't care who's flying the aircraft be it female, male, aliens...Just as long as they don't crash it!

Though if you think about it there are benefits to having a mixed crew in the cockpit and cabin.
As mentioned before the whole detail-control thing and probably other factors.
In the cabin a strong beefy male is good for dispersing arguments, stopping air rage, and so on. (Then again a beefy female might have the same effect hihi)

Perhaps they should employ beefy bouncers on all flights to stop air-rage eh?
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 11:13 am

I have flown at least once on NWA with a female F/O, as has my dad. On my flight, she was the one to make the announcements and stuff, except when the captain intro'd himself. Nice flight..
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:24 pm

I did on Alaska Air between Seattle and Phoenix.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:30 pm

If I had I wouldn't be here to honour you guys with my presence  Smile/happy/getting dizzy . Just Joking. No I haven't, though I think it would be a nice change to see an all-female crew.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 8:15 pm

Both SAS and Braathens fly with all-female crews regularly.
The first all-female flight in SAS was in 1995.Plane was a Fokker F-28-3000.
First Braathens flight was in Feb. 1997.Boeing 737-500.
SAS was the first major airline in the Western World to hire a female pilot,Turid Widerøe,in 1968.She's the daughter of one of Norway's pioneer pilots who founded Widerøe's Flyselskap in the -30's.Prior to joining SAS,she flew as a seaplane captain on Otter seaplanes.
Later,when she became pregnant,she quit flying as there was no programme around to return her to flying status after pregnancy leave.This was in 1974.Her uniform was exhibited (and maybe still is) at the Smithsonian Institution,where I saw it in 1977.
Out of some 2300 SAS pilots,only some 70-80 are female,while in Braathens the number is 5 or 6 out of a total of some 280 pilots.
We need more of them,they're great pilots!
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Mon Jun 11, 2001 12:56 am

I have seen a lot of female pilots/co-pilots on Northwest. Also, there are always a ton of female pilots(or at least there WERE) flying for Comair especially into Grand Rapids.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Mon Jun 11, 2001 2:56 pm

LOT hires a few female pilots. Recently one of them (ERJ 145 captain) had difficult landing in Gdansk Airport.
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Mon Jun 11, 2001 11:55 pm

Can you still it a "Cockpit" when there is an all female crew???!!
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Tue Jun 12, 2001 12:19 am


I was once on a Team LH/Augsburg Airways flight - 2 women in the cockpit, female purser - but the other steward was a man. You finally get an all female cockpit, and then the cabin spoils it all... j/k, but that was as close as I got to an all female crew.

Never got an all male crew either - closest: again Augsburg/team LH, the cabin was one male (not that common either), but one woman up front. Oh well...

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Tue Jun 12, 2001 5:25 pm

Hi,

I flew with an all female crew in Namibia.

Air Namibia Beech 1900 V5-LTC.
Between WDH ( Windhoek) and OKU ( Mokuti)

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RE: Ever Flown With All Female Crew?

Tue Jun 12, 2001 8:55 pm

I had an all female crew on a Saab 2000 from ZRH - HAJ on Crossair.
Woman pilots (all FO) I had on LH, OZ (Korea), LX.