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What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:36 pm

As you may know, both Family Airlines and Fortunair Canada have never taken off. They were both intended to be B 747 Operators but they both went bankrupt before they started any revenue flight.

But why?

 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 3:37 pm

Family Airlines, as far as I recall, had an ex Pan Am 747-100 painted up but they never received their operating certificate - I think I'm correct in saying that questions were raised about the source of their funding.

Fortunair operated - again using B747s - mainly on charter flights to Europe. It was set up by former Nationair personnel, and apparently they were fronting for Nationair's CEO, Robert Obadiah. Can't remember if they ran out of cash or if Transport Canada closed them down...
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:11 pm

Any Airline which has NEVER taken off before?
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:18 pm

Loads - of every 100 that are seriously planned, probably only 10 get as far as actually applying for an operating certificate and raising finance. Of those, probably 10% make it into the air - so you have a 99% failure rate even before you start to operate!!
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:22 pm

Cool!
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:49 pm

Now now, B747-437B ... or we'll start talking about take-over bids that fail as well! Big grin Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 5:10 pm

Didn't they worry that the name "Family Airlines" might raise a few eyebrows? To me its an instant give away that the airlines was gonna be run by the Italian mafia.
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 5:25 pm

Ceilidh - 'tis better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all. Ain't that the story of this industry?  Smile
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:47 pm

Hmmm, so ceilidh would you put "CalWings" in the 10% that apply for finance and never get airborne then? BTW how much money have you raised? Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:57 pm

B747-437B - quite right! ... and that's what a lot of people round here don't realise/recognise.
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:27 pm

I'm sure you could get some fake Operating Cetificates in some African countires, that's the way some people get their Pilot Licenses, right Ceilidh? Big grin
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Tue Jun 12, 2001 1:20 am

I see you're talking about my erstwhile partners (MS and AL) again, and their Microsoft Publisher Sierra Leone licences, Brissie!
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Tue Jun 12, 2001 4:42 am

How about your Nigerian (falsely issued) ALTP and your Kiribati (forged) ALTP. And what about your Burundi (doesn't exist) ALTP?
 
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RE: What Happened To Family Airlines/Fortunair Canada?

Wed Jun 13, 2001 4:59 am

Unless I'm mistaken, Family Airlines had an ex-BA 747-136 (not a Pan Am -121). This aircraft was actually painted in a red-white-and-blue Family Airlines scheme. In that guise, the poor airplane never carried a fare-paying passenger and was flown to a desert boneyard, where she was subsequently scrapped.
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