airways45
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Heathrow Runway 23

Sat Jun 23, 2001 7:11 am

Does anyone know when LHR runway 23 was last used, and what is the largest airliner they have seen landing on it? Has anyone landed on it, or taken off from it?

NB: LRH Runway 23 is the cross runway that cuts into Runway 27L and is 6450ft long.

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mrjworth
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sat Jun 23, 2001 7:53 am

This runway is frequently used, but usually only for landings due to the fact that it is only 6,500 feet long - not long enough for a 747 though.

You could only barely use this runway for takeoff on very windy days and only then if the wind was straight down the runway. Also, you gain very little as if one aircraft if using 5/23, you can't use either other runway at the same time - as it crosses both.
 
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sat Jun 23, 2001 11:45 am

RWY 23 is long enough for landing a 747.

 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sat Jun 23, 2001 12:30 pm

Has it not been closed for years ????

I remember when I was a kid standing on a small mound at the end of the runway , with jets landing over my head. I think I remember Concorde landing.
 
jon01
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sat Jun 23, 2001 3:28 pm

When there is a strong southerly wind Rwy 23 can still be used for landing and Runway 27R is used for take-offs. It has a dme but no ILS. The runway does not interfere with 27R, so 23 and 27R can happily be used together.

Regards,
Jon
 
deltairlines
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 1:33 am

I remember reading that 747s frequently used 23, and the Concorde has used it, but there was a problem with the other runways (if I remember correctly)

Jeff
 
airways45
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 1:40 am

I have heard that if you approach 23, you fly directly over RAF Northolt, and if the airport wants to use 23, they need to warn BA so that 747s can be moved from remote stands near T4!

Also, when the Virgin Atlantic A340 from LAX had a problem with the landing gear a couple of years ago, 23 was the ideal runway to land on given the wind (and ATC gave the pilot the choice) but they opted for the longer 27L - which the aircraft then closed for a few hours!!
 
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 1:44 am

I was once (~1987) on a BA 747-200 taking off on LHR's runway 27L.
We had just rev'd up and barely started forward roll when the engines went back to idle and we stopped sharply.
After about 5-10 seconds, looking out the right side I noticed a BAe ATP overshoot runway 23! (i.e. crossing our runway).
After about another 20 seconds we started and completed our take-off.
Clearly, landings on 23 have been unorthodox for a while.
` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
 
BA747-436
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 2:03 am

Only a few months ago we landed on 23 direct from Hong Kong on BA028 (A B747-436)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Due to it's length the aircraft does apply more than the usual amount of reverse and breaking. It's cool though becuase you get to see alot of the aircarft at the stands on finals.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Dan
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lmml 14/32
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 2:57 am

LHR Rwy23 was the scene for the crash landing of a BA B707 that lost - actually lost - an engine that fell off shortly after take off from LHR. I think the runway cannot be used anylonger because of the proximity of T4. Can anybody confirm?
 
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RE Lmml 14/32

Sun Jun 24, 2001 3:12 am

Well then obviously the BA crew on my flight had no idea what they were doing when they landed on 23!!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy LOL!!!
I mean realy mate, do you think that i captain with probrbley around 20 or so years of expericance behind him working for one of the top airlines in the world would land on a inactive runway in perfect weather???, And after the Tower had obviously given him permision??????
Let me know your thoughts on that one!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Dan
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voodoo
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RE: RE Lmml 14/32

Sun Jun 24, 2001 3:52 am

I think the point is
that R23 is unorthodox and when unorthodox procedures come into play unusual events can occur.
e.g.:
Ref: the use of the wide parallel taxi-way at Gatwick as the `auxilliary' runway when the main/normal runnway is being resurfaced etc....there have been `incidents'.
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 3:59 am

Er 05/23 isn't inactive but rather, seldom used.
 
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RE: Heathrow Runway 23

Sun Jun 24, 2001 4:08 am

Exactley!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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